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High Council Meeting 169th (October 10th 2005)
Tanda: *removes hat*
Ioshus: Hello Tanda.
Tanda: Hello
Icestorm: We may as well begin.
Ioshus: Find anything interesting?
Tanda: a bunch of gray robes
Ioshus: *looks to icestorm*
Ioshus: *glances back at Tanda and grins*
Icestorm: Welcome to the one-hundred and sixty-ninth meeting of the High Council.
Ioshus: Phew getting up there.
Ioshus: hehe
Icestorm: With little doubt, there are now some in these lands who hope that it does not see
Icestorm: its one-hundred and seventieth.
Tanda: *blushes*
Icestorm: I was not present at the last meeting, but I am told it was short, and to the point.
Icestorm: Chancellor Fl'Gith has tendered his resignation from the Council due largely to those events.
Icestorm: For those interested, it sits on the other end of this table.
Tanda: *looks at the floor*
Icestorm: *she points to the tome*
Ioshus: *grumbles*
Icestorm: I have agreed to chair the High Council until a suitable replacement may be found.
Icestorm: So we stand now at a crossroad.
Icestorm: A Council that has few members.
Icestorm: A movement to see it ended.
Arrenathian: May I ask?
Arrenathian: What movement?
Icestorm: The Royal Knights of Redemption have already disavowed the High Council.
Icestorm: They now move to build a new alliance.
Strider: *shrugs*
Ioshus: *raises hand*
Arrenathian: If they wished to move against this council
Arrenathian: would they not now be her enmass
Arrenathian: destroying us?
Ioshus: Messy way of doing it.
Ioshus: *grins*
Icestorm: It would be quite hard to build a new government on murder.
pabII: there are other ways to destroy something than bloodshed
Arrenathian: That is usually how governments are made.
Arrenathian: Murder and bloodshed
Icestorm: Not in Britannia.
pabII: nay
Arrenathian: only to the victors i is called revolution
pabII: some are without drawing a sword
pabII: from within
Icestorm: We already know how they feel about this Council.
Polynikes of Yew: *opens door*
Arrenathian: Yes we do.
Arrenathian: It is to our advantage.
Ioshus: *keeps hand up*
Icestorm: Is it?
Arrenathian: If one looks hard enough at their statements.
Arrenathian: and actions.
Icestorm: It can be to advantage, yes, but it is a game that must be carefully played.
Arrenathian: Aye...a game with man pieces.
Icestorm: Very true.
Icestorm: *she nods*
Icestorm: Justicar Ioshus, you had a question or comment?
Granny Elsa: pardon
Ioshus: A question that may lead into a comment hehe.
Icestorm: *she nods with a smile*
Strider: Granny that chair is reserved for Councilors
Icestorm: She is sitting in for Councilor Ailieve.
Ioshus: I wasn't here last meet but I have read the ethereal HC posts.
Strider: *nods*
Bob Villa: HC?
Ioshus: I know Ra is gone and I know Ren has left.
Ioshus: Short for High Council
Bob Villa: *nods*
pabII: *looks at Ioshus insulted*
Ioshus: It also sounds like Ren is trying to make a new government.
Oona: *Smirks*
pabII: *raises hand*
Strider: tyrany....
Ioshus: My question is: Is this new government to be subservient to the HC?
Ioshus: Or replace it?
Oona: *Sighs folds her arms*
Ioshus: If he is trying to replace it he is a traitor under our laws.
Icestorm: Given his statement that they no longer recognize the High Council as a government,
Strider: *nods*
Icestorm: I doubt that anything they do would be "subservient" to the High Council.
Ioshus: *nods*
Ioshus: Then I'll post the warrant after the meeting.
Icestorm: It's fairly clear he wishes to supplant it.
Arrenathian: Ioshus
Leon DeLucsil: *blinks*
Ioshus: Yes?
Oona: *Shakes her head*
Icestorm: Warrant?
Oona: Arrest for what
Ioshus: Its my job..
Arrenathian: before you go feeding the blood lust of this council
Ioshus: One of the few things I do hehe.
Oona: Speaking the truth as Ren saw it so free speech is not allowed anylonger in this Realm
Icestorm: Aside from walking away from this Council, what has he done?
Arrenathian: contemplate on your actions
Icestorm: *she looks to Oona*
Arrenathian: WE hav emany enemies at our dorr
Silverbrook: Lady Abhail.. let the Council speak.
Silverbrook: Shh.
pabII: *raises hand*
Ioshus: We always have enemies.
Arrenathian: We need not make an enemy
Ioshus: I should ignore the law?
Arrenathian: of peaceful people at this point.
Ioshus: I do little as is..
Icestorm: Until Ren actually attempts to supplant the Council, he has done nothing of crime.
Icestorm: What law has he broken?
pabII: he has not broken any law yet
Ioshus: Attempting to make a new governement to replace the HC or
Arrenathian: Our enemies are waiting for a weakness
pabII: it is a free land is it not
Ioshus: Stand higher then it would seperate the HC from the ruling council and thus be a act of treason.
Icestorm: Let us not get carried away here.
Ioshus: He would have a trial and if he can prove
pabII: may i make a statement
Ioshus: he isn't trying to do that then there will be no harm done.
Bob Villa: *mumbles*
Oona: *Shakes her head*
Ioshus: Thats all.
Icestorm: *she shakes her head*
Oona: *Mutters*
Icestorm: Councilor Pab...
pabII: thank you
pabII: I have sat and listened to how ren leaving and ra leaving is going to destroy the council
pabII: Is this council not the voice of all the people of the land
pabII: not just a few
pabII: i wish to release this
pabII: we can let them ruin it if we choose to
pabII: but if we do what this council was set up to do it will not happen
Ioshus: *nods*
Strider: *nods*
pabII: we are to be the voice of the people not of a few
pabII: that is all
pabII: thank you
Icestorm: *she nods*
Icestorm: Thank you.
Tanda: *raises hand*
Icestorm: We all know the Council has things that need fixing.
Icestorm: One moment, Lady Tanda.
Tanda: *Nods*
Icestorm: One needs only read the pages of the Council records to know this is true.
Icestorm: The question is not whether or not this Council will survive.
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Icestorm: The question is what we will do to make it stronger, and bring it back to its purpose.
pabII: here here
Icestorm: The former Grand Marshall clearly had some ideas.
Icestorm: Rather than bring them to the Council, he, and the Royal Knights, turned their
Icestorm: backs on it.
Icestorm: It is a free land, and that is their choice.
Strider: *nods*
Icestorm: But simply because they wish it to end does not make it so.
Arrenathian: Even children leave their parents for a short time in their angst
Oona: *Smirks*
Icestorm: Perhaps someday they will return.
Icestorm: Who knows?
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Oona: *Glares at Arrenathian*
Icestorm: In the mean time, our focus should be on finding out what would cause such supporters
Icestorm: to abandon the Council, and to fix it so that it can do what it needs to.
Icestorm: We might not like to hear things aren't working.
Icestorm: And certainly there are FAR FAR better ways of making that point than the
Icestorm: method that the Royal Knights and their Templar chose,
Icestorm: but none of that invalidates their opinion.
Icestorm: It just makes it harder to hear.
Icestorm: And,
Icestorm: *she looks at Justicar Ioshus*
Bob Villa: All these woman, for me?
Bob Villa: *winks*
Icestorm: the best way to inflame this situation is to start issuing warrants for their arrest.
Bob Villa: *looks over*
pabII: *nods*
Icestorm: We can turn people upset with the Council into full blown enemies,
Icestorm: we can go and draw lines in the sand,
Ioshus: Ren’s arrest... and if I didn't I would be ignoring my duty.
Icestorm: and we can bring Britannia to civil war.
Polynikes of Yew: *raises hand*
Icestorm: You have a unique sense of duty then.
Oona: And what has brought around this change in attitude, especially when many warrants are needed
Oona: Your nowhere to be found.
Ioshus: Ren is actually a citizen.
Polynikes of Yew: *looks at raised hand*
Ioshus: *grins*
Icestorm: Can we please remain civil?
Ioshus: *nods*
Leon DeLucsil: *raises hand*
Oona: *Nods smiles sweetly*
Icestorm: Lady Tanda, followed by Lord Polynikes, and then Lord DeLucsil...
Calibus: *raises hand*
Icestorm: *she nods and adds Calibus to the list*
Tanda: thank you madam Chancellor
Leshyani Rianne: Ahh.
Leshyani Rianne: Lore arrives.
Silverbrook: Shh, Leshyani.
Tanda: I would like to ask since Lady Sliverbrook
Tanda: and Lady Abhail
Tanda: are not seated at the council if they have resigned as well?
Tanda: Also to point out when M'lord Denin
Tanda: took a stand against the rightful rule of this land
Tanda: he was charged with treason
Lore Denin: *nods*
Icestorm: He took a stand against Lord British himself.
Tanda: Aye
Tanda: to speak out against the law
Arrenathian: I defended his return, and he was granted mercy and compassion.
Tanda: is not treason
Icestorm: Unless we've made laws...
Tanda: to this point no action has been taken against Britannia
Icestorm: *she nods*
Tanda: thus the "act"has not yet be committed
Tanda: to our knowledge
Icestorm: I think we'd have heard about it if it had.
pabII: aye
Tanda: I would think so
Tanda: We many of us
Tanda: have put in some long
Tanda: long hours
Tanda: in an attempt to serve the peoples of this land
Tanda: I for one am not willing to lay down, roll over and play dead yet
pabII: here here
Tanda: that's all I wanted to say
Icestorm: *she nods*
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Tanda: our purpose has not changed
Strider: *smiles*
Icestorm: Thank you, Lady Tanda.
Icestorm: Lord Polynikes, followed by Lord DeLucsil and Lord Calibus.
Polynikes of Yew: Thank you Chancellor
Polynikes of Yew: I would echo the Lady Tanda's comment
Polynikes of Yew: regarding the right of the Templar
Polynikes of Yew: and his Knights
Polynikes of Yew: to hold and voice their opinons as to the shortcomings
Polynikes of Yew: of the present system.
Polynikes of Yew: While I disagree with their actions to my knowledge they have
Polynikes of Yew: committed no crimes.
Polynikes of Yew: I think talk of warrants and treason to be premature
Polynikes of Yew: and inflamatory.
Polynikes of Yew: Each of our cities
Polynikes of Yew: need to decide what we can do to improve this bodies effectiveness if we intend to stay.
Polynikes of Yew: After talking to the citizens
Polynikes of Yew: and leaders of Yew
Polynikes of Yew: and many of our allies it is our intention to work
Polynikes of Yew: to make the High Council stronger
Polynikes of Yew: and if it falls
Polynikes of Yew: We will be the last out the door.
Strider: *claps*
Polynikes of Yew: *looks to Icestorm*
Leon DeLucsil: *claps*
Polynikes of Yew: That is all I wanted to say at this time.
pabII: aye
Icestorm: Thank you, Lord Polynikes.
Calibus: *nods in agreement*
Icestorm: Lord DeLucsil, followed by Lord Calibus.
Leon DeLucsil: Thank you
Icestorm: *she waves him to the center*
Icestorm: I won't bite, hun.
Leon DeLucsil: *smiles*
Leon DeLucsil: Most of my thoughts only echo thatr of Tnada and Polynikes
Leon DeLucsil: But I would like to add
Leon DeLucsil: If the Kngiths and the town of Newcastle have seceeded
Leon DeLucsil: Then they may try and form their own council
Leon DeLucsil: for their city
Leon DeLucsil: Not so much a replacemnt
Leon DeLucsil: and as such Im not sure it would be undr treason
Ioshus: *nods*
Leon DeLucsil: As they are their own city state
Leon DeLucsil: And only subject to our laws
Leon DeLucsil: When in our lands, or directly affecting us
Oona: *Raises her hand*
Icestorm: Newcastle does lie within Britannian boundaries.
Icestorm: But it is yet to see what their intentions are.
Leon DeLucsil: But do the cities not have the right to leave the council?
Ioshus: *shakes head*
Icestorm: That would be a rather unique form of government.
Leon DeLucsil: Indeed, but not illegal
Icestorm: Again, it depends on their intent.
Leon DeLucsil: You cnanot force a nation, or city to join yours, or to stay
Leon DeLucsil: Yes
Leon DeLucsil: Agreed
Ioshus: *raises hand*
Leon DeLucsil: If thy remain peaceful then I don't see any problems
Leon DeLucsil: We can be allies if we don't agree on everything
Icestorm: Well, Britannia's borders don't change on whim, my lord. But yes, I hope it remains peaceful.
Leon DeLucsil: *nids*
Leon DeLucsil: Fair enough
Leon DeLucsil: That is all I have
Icestorm: Thank you, Lord DeLucsil.
Icestorm: Lord Calibus, to be followed by Lady Oona, Lord Arrenathian, and Lord Ioshus.
Alexander Sprunt: please enter
Calibus: As some of you are aware a part of me comes from a land of complete Chaos....
Calibus: It saddens me to see some of this Chaos begining in this land.
Calibus: However as I understand it Ren and the City of Newcastle do not recognize this Council...
Tanda: *looks at Calibus and smiles*
Calibus: they they still wished to remain a part of Britannia.... and wish to support Britannia.....
Calibus: However they don't wish to served or recognize this council....
Calibus: I am sad that they felt the need to do this but that is their right I would imagine....
Calibus: I would hope they would eventually wish to return but I can't force them....
Calibus: And I don't think it is right to do so either.
Calibus: However I do hope that they still obey the laws of the lands.
Calibus: I haven't seen any laws violated
Calibus: But I can see the potential for this to bring Chaos to the land.
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Calibus: We really should take caution in doing so.
Calibus: We should not be quick to judge them.
Calibus: That is what I wanted to say. We needn't make them enemies.
Icestorm: Thank you, Lord Calibus.
Icestorm: Lady Oona, followed by Lord Arrenathian and Lord Ioshus.
Oona: Firstly, I believe this should be said... All this talk of treason and chaos, has not come for the

This is where I lost connection about 9:09 p.m. cst for about 2 minutes with restarting. I know I listened to Oona speak of following the laws of Britannia as set down by Lord British not the laws of this council. That the didn't seek to split Britannia up into several little country type things. I am searching for someone else where it didn't blot out their log.


Icestorm: Please do not interrupt, my lord.
Polynikes of Yew: can’t just barge in and interrupt
Polynikes of Yew: have a seat
Polynikes of Yew: Ren
Arrenathian: a lot of seat have never been filled by those who took them in good faith
Ren The Conjuror: Certainly, thanks for the offer.
Polynikes of Yew: You will have your chance
Polynikes of Yew: for a rebuttal
Icestorm: In the chamber, my lord, not as a Council member.
Arrenathian: Maybe looking at a new system
Icestorm: You gave up that honor.
Strider: Vacate that seat Ren! You have resigned it
Icestorm: Order, please!
Silverbrook: Shh.
Arrenathian: May I speak
Ren The Conjuror: *Smiles*
Ren The Conjuror: Oh dear, did I sit in the wrong chair, my mistake...
Arrenathian: maybe
Arrenathian: we need to look at a new system
Ren The Conjuror: Such friendly redirection by those who claimed to be friends.
Arrenathian: crafters may prosper
Arrenathian: economies
Arrenathian: being created
Icestorm: If you came here only to show disrespect, my lord, I would have you know many
Icestorm: here have spoken on your behalf.
Arrenathian: *sighs*
Icestorm: And have supported both your right and stance.
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Icestorm: So please, do not further disparage or interrupt.
pabII: *nods*
Ren The Conjuror: I come to offer no disrespect to those who offer respect in return.
Ren The Conjuror: *Nods to Icestorm*
Polynikes of Yew: *smirks*
Icestorm: *she sighs*
Icestorm: Please continue...
Arrenathian: I just see that maybe a system of city states
Arrenathian: maybe advantagous
Arrenathian: to all.
Arrenathian: the council would remain
Arrenathian: only in a new form,
Arrenathian: But it is only a vision
Arrenathian: thank you for you time.
Arrenathian: *relaxes back in his chair*
Leon DeLucsil: *raies hand*
Icestorm: Thank you, Lord Arrenathian.
Arrenathian: *nods*
Calibus: *sighs*
Icestorm: Lord Ioshus, follwed by Lord Denin, Lady Tanda, I believe, Lord Polynikes, and Lord Delucsil.
Ioshus: I will not post the warrant.
Ioshus: I leave it to the council to decide.
Ioshus: That is all.
Oona: *Smirks*
Icestorm: Thank you, Lord Ioshus.
Icestorm: Lady Tanda.
Icestorm: Err.
Icestorm: Sorry.
Lore Denin: *nods*
Icestorm: Lord Denin, then Lady Tanda.
Tanda: *Nods*
Lore Denin: Thank you M'lady
Lore Denin: Thank you Vice Chancellor
Lore Denin: I have heard much wisdom from the Council and citizens of Britannia
Lore Denin: A seeking of understanding and common ground
Lore Denin: Talk of reform and the betterment of what exists
Lore Denin: It is my hope that the Royal Knights embrace that as well
Lore Denin: I have heard they believe this Council no longer functions
Lore Denin: but have never seen any written proposal or attempts to reform
Lore Denin: to fix the issues
Strider: *nods*
Lore Denin: I hope through discussion such failings can come to light
Lore Denin: As that would be in the best interest of all Britannians
Zeph: *chuckles*
Lore Denin: What I fear however is the direction the current course of the Royal Knights is taking
Leon DeLucsil: *looks to man*
Lore Denin: That to ignore what has existed and been built by generations of Britannians
pabII: *looksto denim*
Lore Denin: That is all I have to say for until tomorrow's meeting I can not comment more on the Royal Knights course or intentions
Lore Denin: Thank you
Icestorm: Lady Tanda...
Tanda: Thank you M'lady Chancellor
Tanda: I would like to remind all here that this Council serves
Tanda: through a grant of power, authority, responsibility given it
Tanda: by the Ruling Council
Tanda: Even if it may flounder a bit in trying to revive some interest in
Tanda: the citizenry to serve the land
Tanda: our purpose has not, nor to this point
Tanda: has the Ruling Council
Tanda: stripped it of that grant
Tanda: to choose to obey laws laid down by Lord British
Tanda: who no longer governs this land
Tanda: and ignore laws passed
Tanda: by this council
Tanda: may lead to
Tanda: considerable disagreements
Tanda: We can not go about hacking
Tanda: Britannia into pieces
Tanda: with this city becoming it's own state
Tanda: It has been tried
Tanda: the resulting bloodshed
Ren The Conjuror: *Takes a deep breath and raises his hand*
Tanda: still leaves many with regret
Tanda: Changes need to be made yes, and perhaps
Tanda: it is the inability of those who see them
Tanda: in need to get them to the floor
Tanda: through someone who has the right to do so
Tanda: The Grand Marshall cannot propose law
Tanda: It would have to come through a council seat.
Icestorm: I'm curious as to why he couldn't.
Tanda: I am uncertain of what the course may bring
Lore Denin: *nods in confusion to Lady Tanda*
Tanda: Well, perhaps he will address that
Tanda: as if change needed to be made
Tanda: it was not brought to the floor
Tanda: that is all
Icestorm: Thank you.
Icestorm: Lord Polynikes, followed by Lord DeLucsil, and Lord Ren.
Polynikes of Yew: I will yield my turn at this time
Polynikes of Yew: I am interested ion what the Templar
Polynikes of Yew: says tonight
Polynikes of Yew: perhaps I might get
Polynikes of Yew: a chance to offer a rebuttal this time.
Strider: *looks at the lady in red*
Ren The Conjuror: Is Delucsil to speak?
Ren The Conjuror: Or am I recognized by the council?
Leon DeLucsil: I withdraw, my thoughts have already been spoken by others
Icestorm: Lord Ren then.
Ren The Conjuror: *Sighs*
Ren The Conjuror: Look at us....
Ren The Conjuror: Maybe I am blind.
Ren The Conjuror: Maybe...
Ren The Conjuror: Every week we come here...
Ren The Conjuror: In between every meeting...
Ren The Conjuror: So many of us bust our assess to make things work...
Ren The Conjuror: Every week.
Ren The Conjuror: Ra'dian stood here, my closest of friends.
Ren The Conjuror: He asked the council, "what news from your city?"
Ren The Conjuror: What word of events?
Ren The Conjuror: What happened this week?
Ren The Conjuror: Every week the answer was the same.
Ren The Conjuror: Nothing.
Ren The Conjuror: I love Britannia...
pabII: how would you know Ren
Ren The Conjuror: I love her people.
Strider: Every week we stared at the Grand marshal's empty seat....
Ren The Conjuror: I loved this council.
pabII: you were always away
Icestorm: Please!
Ren The Conjuror: You know...
Icestorm: Let's let the man speak.
Polynikes of Yew: *frowns*
Ren The Conjuror: Nevermind, Vice Chancellor.
Oona: *Shakes her head glaces at him*
Ren The Conjuror: They aren't going to listen.
Ren The Conjuror: They have made up their minds.
Arrenathian: Ren
Icestorm: My lord.
Ren The Conjuror: They would hang me now.
Icestorm: Because two people speak
Icestorm: does not mean everyone believes the same.
Arrenathian: Please speak
Icestorm: You of all people should know that.
pabII: we will listen if you have something not imagined to say
Ioshus: They defended you.
Ren The Conjuror: I left the council because I wanted something to happen.
Ren The Conjuror: For the first time in a very long time, you are passionate about something.
Ren The Conjuror: If it’s hating me, then so be it.
Ren The Conjuror: What did I see?
Calibus: That is not necessarily so.
Ren The Conjuror: I saw Yew doing a great many things.
pabII: *raises hand*
Ren The Conjuror: You have a wonderful city
Ren The Conjuror: With wonderful people.
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Ren The Conjuror: Full of life and zest, even if they hated following me, or despised me.
Ren The Conjuror: I heard reports of attacks by pirates...
Ren The Conjuror: I heard reports from a great many people...
Ren The Conjuror: Who came once a week to this council to share what happened.
Ren The Conjuror: I heard reports from people who didn't work together...
Ren The Conjuror: We were separated by a great divide.
Ren The Conjuror: one that exists to this day.
Ren The Conjuror: One that has existed for a very long time.
Ren The Conjuror: I'm not going to make excuses.
Ren The Conjuror: But I was afraid, for Britannia.
Ren The Conjuror: I was afraid because nothing brought us together except war.
Ren The Conjuror: And even then, we did it out of grudging need for the others military arm.
Ren The Conjuror: It was the saddest thing I have ever seen.
Ren The Conjuror: You might hate me, you may think I was a horrible leader.
Ren The Conjuror: But I loved you.
pabII: *raises hand*
Ren The Conjuror: I loved this.
Ren The Conjuror: *Waves his hands around*
Ren The Conjuror: I *wanted* this to work.
Ren The Conjuror: and if I had to take a fall, for it to happen, for me to see a spark of flame in your eyes again
Ren The Conjuror: then I was going to do it.
Ren The Conjuror: I'm not proposing city states..
Ren The Conjuror: I'm not proposing warring factions
Ren The Conjuror: I asked Oona to reach out and to contact as many as possible.
Ren The Conjuror: Because I wanted everyone to come together...
Ren The Conjuror: and to actually talk...
Ren The Conjuror: I'm so tired.
Ren The Conjuror: I'm tired of rivalries.
Ren The Conjuror: Of puppet councilors.
Ren The Conjuror: Of people bickering.
pabII: *looks insulted*
Ren The Conjuror: I wanted to reach out to everyone...
Ren The Conjuror: What I wanted was this.
Ren The Conjuror: Right now...
Ren The Conjuror: Someone who we have never heard of, can be elected as the councilor of Trinsic for example.
Ren The Conjuror: A place where there isn't an active populace.
Ren The Conjuror: and that councilor, would have as much say, as the councilor of Yew...
Ren The Conjuror: and would have more say then a citizen of Whispering Winds
Ren The Conjuror: Where people actually live and work together.
Ren The Conjuror: I wanted to see a change, where councilors weren't elected by other councilors
Ren The Conjuror: but by the people, a system where the people, actually had a voice.
Ren The Conjuror: I wouldn't have served on this council, or done what I could, seen or not seen...
Ren The Conjuror: behind the scenes or in public...
Ren The Conjuror: If I didn't want things to work.
Ren The Conjuror: So I took a risk.
Ren The Conjuror: And I've lost alot by doing so.
Ren The Conjuror: *Looks to where Icestorm stands*
Ren The Conjuror: Call me what you will.
Ren The Conjuror: Do what you think is best.
hans noodlenogin: visionary
Ren The Conjuror: But I am not, and never will, be a traitor to Britannia, or her people.
Ren The Conjuror: *Looks down*
Ren The Conjuror: That's all.
hans noodlenogin: *holds mouth*
Lore Denin: *raises hand*
Icestorm: Lady Pab.
pabII: i must say i take a little insult to hearing we have not reported things about our city to the council
Tenebrous: *glance swivels across the room in a slow, deliberate manner*
pabII: and im not the only one to do so
Ren The Conjuror: Did you not listen...
Ren The Conjuror: *Sighs*
Granny Elsa: Eh?
pabII: we have gotten reports the ioshus followed up on in other cities
pabII: in Rens abcence
pabII: I have no issue with RKR doing their own thing
pabII: but to try to say the the council does nothing i so have issue with
pabII: we have invited all to help in some endeavors that were quite successful
pabII: in getting people of the towns and allies together
Icestorm: *she blushes*
Icestorm: Pardon.
pabII: such as the free fair that was held
pabII: but no one who was invited helped with it
pabII: the few that did, did a great job
pabII: such as silver brook and tanda
pabII: that is all
pabII: thank you
Tanda: *raises hand*
Icestorm: Lord Denin, followed by Lady Tanda.
Lore Denin: Thank you Vice Chancellor
Lore Denin: I feel for Ren
Lore Denin: He seems exhausted
Lore Denin: Still I am upset with his decisions
Lore Denin: I can understand resigning as Grand Marshall
Lore Denin: Indeed to maintain the military for so long is a difficult task
Tenebrous: Nay, he stabbed Fl'Gith in the back in a most honorable fashion, Denin...
Lore Denin: and I for one have always thought he did an excellent job
Ren The Conjuror: They can kick me from the chambers Emporer...
Polynikes of Yew: *raises hand**looks to Tenebrous*
Tenebrous: ...Conjuror.
Lore Denin: But he did not just resign
Polynikes of Yew: *motions to Leon*
Ren The Conjuror: But I have no problem with kicking your unholy ass back to whatever hell spawned you right now.
Treybyre Heart: *Looks at Leon*
Leon DeLucsil: Please have a seat Tenebrous
Summer Radiance: *looks over her shoulder*
Lore Denin: I hear his words of reform
Tenebrous: By all means, Conjuror...regail us with a demonstration of your power...
Lore Denin: and hope the Council will nominate a representative
Treybyre Heart: *Looks to Leon and looks to Ren*
Lore Denin: to work with him
Tenebrous: I'll raise no spell against you.
Icestorm: Let's remain civil...
Ioshus: Is something happening over there?
Lore Denin: I suggest Lady Ailieve of Chaos
Lore Denin: *looks over shoulder*
Tucker: Tenebrous, have a seat sir
Ren The Conjuror: I'm far from the mood for games, and though I'm the Grand Marshall no longer...
Tenebrous: Your failure on your own part is far orse than any pain this mortal form could inflict.
Ren The Conjuror: I don't doubt that every noble member of the Yew militia, will have no problem
Leon DeLucsil: Sir, please sit quietly, if you have something to say, raise your hand
Treybyre Heart: *Pushes Leon in the Shoulder*
Ren The Conjuror: with me slamming your Atalan pompous head into the wall.
Treybyre Heart: When you speak to the Templar, address him as Lord.
Tanda: Seems a fallen God has come to call
Lore Denin: *nods*
Tenebrous: As I said Conjuror...
Leon DeLucsil: Excuse me sir...
Lore Denin: That all I have to add
Oona: *Glares at Treybyre*
Polynikes of Yew: Militia Militia
Icestorm: Thank you Lord Denin.
Polynikes of Yew: if our visitor
Icestorm: Lady Tanda.
Polynikes of Yew: cannot behave
Lore Denin: I hope the Council will nominate someone to aid in getting a clear idea of the reforms
Lore Denin: *nods*
Polynikes of Yew: remove him from the chamber
Arrenathian: *smiles to Lore*
Tanda: APATHY!
Tucker: There will be no fighting in here
Polynikes of Yew: Templar
Tenebrous: I'll leave of my own accord...nearly wanted to see for myself the rumors I had heard.
Tanda: Tis what I hear here
Polynikes of Yew: let us not interrupt the meeting
Strider: *nods*
Ren The Conjuror: *Looks back at Polynikes*
Tanda: and I too am guilty
Tenebrous: ...and I delight in their truths...
Ren The Conjuror: *Nods once and turns back to glare at Tenebrous*
Tanda: For many many years
Treybyre Heart: *Sighs in Relief*
Polynikes of Yew: Leon
Polynikes of Yew: guard the door
Tanda: I served as Justicar
Leon DeLucsil: Yes sir
Tanda: I attended functions
Polynikes of Yew: he is not to re enter the chamber
Tanda: I walked the streets with Lady Silverbrook
Tanda: speaking with town folk
Tanda: you plan, you push
Tanda: you plead
Tanda: and the numbers still dwindle
Tanda: few show up
Tanda: soon you lose the fire
Tanda: in your belly
Tanda: the reason you came to public service
Tanda: I am a merchant by trade
Tanda: tis easier to slide away into my work
Tanda: mixing elixirs
Tanda: and selling my wares
Tanda: talking to my customers
Tanda: I still speak to many about this Council
Tanda: and the work that needs to be done
Tanda: but I let other things become priorities
Tanda: when duty use to come first
Tanda: I still try to keep my records files up to date
Tanda: but I've given up hosting banquets
Tanda: calling meetings to get folks to talk
Tanda: then I get a little pep talk from Mayor Willa
Tanda: and try again for a bit
Tanda: We all of us need to find the time
Tanda: to do that for each other
Tanda: be supportive
Tanda: show up
Tanda: lend a hand
Tanda: give that pat on the back
Tanda: Otherwise like myself, Ren, Chancellor Fl'Gith
Tanda: and I'm sure most of you
Tanda: you feel like your beating your head against the wall
Tanda: My only regret in this
Tanda: is not that you resigned M'lord Ren
Tanda: I fully understand
Tanda: having stepped down and Justicar
Tanda: But in hindsight
Tanda: some warning to the Chancellor
Tanda: ahead of time
Tanda: may have saved you a friend
Tanda: and some of the hard feelings felt here
Tanda: as yet another walks away
Tanda: That is all
Icestorm: Communication.
Icestorm: Something this Council, regardless of anyone who may be insulted by the insinuation,
Icestorm: is sorely lacking.
pabII: here here
Arrenathian: hmmm
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Icestorm: Let's look at it objectively for a moment.
Icestorm: There are some Councilors who sit, week after week, without saying a thing.
Icestorm: This isn't directed at any one particular Councilor.
Icestorm: It's hard not to notice that each of the groups have gone off to do their own thing.
Icestorm: When was the last time that the Royal Knights attended a Yew party?
pabII: *smiles*
Icestorm: When was the last time that Yew eagerly attended a training session at the
Icestorm: Keep of Redemption?
Icestorm: How often do we all leave these chambers...
Icestorm: No.
Icestorm: How often do we sit in these chambers whispering nasty things about the person speaking?
Icestorm: Are we all going to get along all the time?
Icestorm: *she smiles*
Icestorm: No.
Icestorm: But the fact that we all come together here on a weekly basis is something good.
Icestorm: Ren says he did this to get things moving.
pabII: aye
Icestorm: And much like a meteor storm into the side of a planet, oh, sure, it's moving.
Icestorm: Lots of aftershocks.
Icestorm: Had we all sat down, this process would have been less painful.
Icestorm: I guess it all comes down to respect, and doing something other than sitting here.
Icestorm: Let's think on this a moment.
Icestorm: Even with a Council half full, if every one of the seated members got out into the world
Icestorm: and had one event a month. Maybe a party, a poetry reading, a costume contest,
Kyrie Draku: *raises hand*
Icestorm: whatever.
Icestorm: That would be what, seven, ten events a month?
Polynikes of Yew: *raises hand**nods*
Icestorm: How many are seated here because this is a cool place to sit?
Polynikes of Yew: *smiles*
Icestorm: Because there's some sort of automatic respect and power associated with the seat?
pabII: *snickers*
Arman Kharas: *raises hand*
Arman Kharas: I do. The caves are much more warm
Tanda: *laughs*
Icestorm: We can point fingers all day long.
Icestorm: All of us... Ren included... got us to where we are today.
Tanda: *Nods*
Icestorm: Inaction, indecisiveness, perhaps a certain comfort in the status quoa.
Arman Kharas: *raises hand signifying a desire to speak at an opportune time*
Icestorm: We can make something out of this, but it will require action.
Icestorm: Lady Kyrie, then Polynikes, and Arman Kharas (I hope I didn't miss a hand in there).
Leon DeLucsil: Sir
Kyrie Draku: Hello to all.
Rand al'Thor: *turns his head slightly*
Leon DeLucsil: Please remove your hood
Leon DeLucsil: *nods*
Leon DeLucsil: hmmm
Leon DeLucsil: Ok...I will perit you...behave
Kyrie Draku: Im going to be as straightforward as possible.
Kyrie Draku: HC is weak.
Kyrie Draku: Yes?
Leon DeLucsil: Your going to have to leave...and wait outside...
Strider: Nay
Icestorm: Depends on what fashion you speak.
Simon Godwyn: *sighs*
Rand al'Thor: Always stubborn Leon..even when happily married...
Rand al'Thor: *removes hood*
Leon DeLucsil: *smiles*
Leon DeLucsil: *pats on shoulder*
Leon DeLucsil: We shall have to talk after...
Leon DeLucsil: Good to see you...
Kyrie Draku: What cities have power.
Kyrie Draku: Why is HC here.
Kyrie Draku: What is the proper function of HC
Kyrie Draku: ??
Strider: *raises hand*
Kyrie Draku: Yes.
Strider: My answer is a long one
Strider: Many friends sit in this room
Strider: some new, some old
Strider: some yet to be met...
Strider: This Council not only governs
Strider: But is a place for us to meet & interact
Strider: & a place for us to band together
Strider: for the good of all
Kyrie Draku: Thank you.
Ren The Conjuror: *Looks over his shoulder to Lore and whispers*
Kyrie Draku: I see a revolt with other guilds urning for power and control
Lore Denin: *nods*
Ren The Conjuror: *Turns back forward*
Lore Denin: Thank you
Kyrie Draku: Having HC as a place for friend meeting isn’t going to stop that.
Ethirali Jaemar: *smiles*
Ethirali Jaemar: Hello knight.
Alexander Sprunt: remove the animal sir
Kyrie Draku: We need new guidelines and government
Leon DeLucsil: Please remove this animal...
Takashi Mandaka: *smiles*
Icestorm: Do you have any suggestions as to what would fill that role, my lady?
Kyrie Draku: Yes...
Leon DeLucsil: Would Rampage's owner please claim your pet
Leon DeLucsil: AN dreove him from the premisis
Omura Katsumoto: *nods to strider*
Icestorm: Would you care to share some of them? Or are they for sharing with something other than
Icestorm: the High Council?
Strider: *reaches over & pats Omura's back*
Arman Kharas: She talks almost as fast as Ra'Dian...
Arman Kharas: *scratches head in an attempt to keep up*
Icestorm: *she rolls her eyes in Arman's direction*
Elros Aegnor: *looks about the room a moment*
Arman Kharas: *blushes and retreats to a notebook*
Icestorm: Lord Polynikes, then....
Tanda: Shall I have the animal expelled?
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Leshyani Rianne: Not I good sir.
Polynikes of Yew: *looks about chamber*
Leon DeLucsil: Please Tnada
Target the person or creature you would like to banish from this house.
Polynikes of Yew: Friends and members of the High Council
Polynikes of Yew: I do not mean to imply that those are mutually exclusive.
Polynikes of Yew: *grins*
Polynikes of Yew: I think we can all appreciate all the effort of the Templar
Polynikes of Yew: as our Grand Marshal.
Polynikes of Yew: The harsh words at the last meeting did stir up a lot of emotion.
Polynikes of Yew: *turns to Ren's direction*
Ren The Conjuror: *Watches and listens*
Polynikes of Yew: Prehaps it can be the catalyst for a brighter future.
Ren The Conjuror: *nods once*
Polynikes of Yew: We have a proud history and I would hate to see us throw that away.
KnightWalker: *crosses arms*
Polynikes of Yew: At the same time as Ren pointed out we could not continue on our complacent and ununified path
Polynikes of Yew: *looks about*
Omura Katsumoto: all kill
Leon DeLucsil: Please, would the owner of Blitzkrieg please stable him outside
Polynikes of Yew: I am of the opinion that we are at a crossroads.
Tanda: Stable is next door
Drakkencor Duras: And Bone Crusher
Polynikes of Yew: If we do not do more than just talk about changes we will fail.
Leon DeLucsil: Yes both
Trojan: There is no stable next door anymore.
Tanda: *Nods*
Leon DeLucsil: Yes indeed there is
Polynikes of Yew: Yew is committed to the support of the Council
Drakkencor Duras: Then outside if there is no room
Polynikes of Yew: I recognize that each of us bears some responsibility for the friction that so often consumed
Leon DeLucsil: Either way...animal...out
Drakkencor Duras: I will not walk though their defecation...
Polynikes of Yew: much of our time and energies.
Polynikes of Yew: Petty rivalries and slitghts.
Polynikes of Yew: slights
Polynikes of Yew: Now is the time for all of us to decide if we can and will work together regardless of our cities
Leon DeLucsil : You are invited to join the party. Type /accept to join or /decline to decline the offer.
Polynikes of Yew: Ren has taken an unusual way to bring this to everyone's attention.
Drakkencor Duras: Do you know who owns that creature?
Drakkencor Duras: never mind
Larisah: Satan
Tanda: *waves hand be gone with thee*
Polynikes of Yew: Tis not the path I would have chosen
KnightWalker: What creatures?
Polynikes of Yew: *smiles slightly*
Polynikes of Yew: but we have an opportunity.
Polynikes of Yew: *looks to Ren*
Shantiles: *chulks*
Ren The Conjuror: *Nods again*
Polynikes of Yew: I hope your comments tonight indicate that you might be willing to work with all of us to better
Polynikes of Yew: Thank you Vice Chancellor
Icestorm: Thank you.
Polynikes of Yew: That is all I wanted to say.
Icestorm: Lord Kharas...
Arman Kharas: *struggles up on staff*
Arman Kharas: Good citizens...I will be brief.
Alex: hmm?
Arman Kharas: For once I am not standing before you with tales of woe, facts of dread and rantings
Arman Kharas: of urgency to an Atalan threat.
Arman Kharas: For this...
Polynikes of Yew: *smiles*
Arman Kharas: *long exhale*
Arman Kharas: I am most grateful
Arman Kharas: Instead, I am doing something I have never done before
Arman Kharas: Taking the forefront of a fight...
Arman Kharas: not one of sword or sorcery...but one of character.
Arman Kharas: On occaisions far too often to number, a member of this High Council protected me with no
Arman Kharas: care or worry for himself, or the consequences said defense would bring.
Arman Kharas: He placed the welfare of his charges aside, as well as his own, to ensure that
Arman Kharas: I might live.
Arman Kharas: In this day and age, I see a great many new faces, and I realize my words mean little
Arman Kharas: But to those who recall those days of horror, my meaning is clear
Arman Kharas: ren the Conjuror deserves far better than the slander I have heard placed against him
Arman Kharas: Embodied within his form is a heart that beats the lifeblood of this land
Arman Kharas: You can take an instance of frustration and loss of faith as one of two things
Arman Kharas: just that...a moment...
Arman Kharas: ...or you can mar the memory of a man who has done you all nothing short of the highest
Arman Kharas: honor, in the traditions of those who came before him.
Arman Kharas: Conjuror I am proud to call you friend, and no opinion, mortal or immortal will change such.
Arman Kharas: *bows to congregation*
Arman Kharas: I thank you all.
Icestorm: Thank you, Lord Kharas.
Ren The Conjuror: *Looks down at the floor*
Icestorm: Have I missed any hands?
Icestorm: Then perhaps a quick summation of the evening.
Icestorm: There are many here who would see the High Council move forward.
Icestorm: It is obvious there are areas that need to be corrected.
Strider: *nods*
Icestorm: The Council serves as a voice for the people.
Ren The Conjuror: *Raises his hand*
Icestorm: I hope that all people who have ideas on the Council's future step forward
Icestorm: at some point and share them.
Icestorm: I also hope those who have nothing to say but, "Die HC die," keep those thoughts to themselves.
Icestorm: Before I conclude, I'll turn the floor back over to Lord Ren.
Icestorm: *she nods at Ren*
Ren The Conjuror: I will be very brief, for it is late.
Ren The Conjuror: The first time I think many of us have actually had the desire and the reason
Ren The Conjuror: to stay late without bickering about it...
Ren The Conjuror: Because we all know something of some sort, no matter what we believe it is...
Ren The Conjuror: must be done.
Ren The Conjuror: I will continue with my plan to meet with as many as possible, this wednesday, at nine under the
Ren The Conjuror: eastern skies...
Ren The Conjuror: all are welcome, and I value your honest opinion..
Omura Katsumoto: Expor Flamus
Ren The Conjuror: on how Britannia should proceed in the years to come.
Ren The Conjuror: May the Virtues bless you all...
Ren The Conjuror: and the stars light your way.
Ren The Conjuror: Knights, assemble.
Ren The Conjuror: *Salutes*
Rowena: *shakes head*
Polynikes of Yew: *sighs*
Leshyani Rianne: Hmm
Silverbrook: Hmm?
pabII: *raises hand*
Leshyani Rianne: *whispers*
Icestorm: Anyhow, in the course of the coming week, I hope everyone gives some thought
Leshyani Rianne: I just don't see that a lot got accomplished.
Icestorm: to what might be done to correct things.
Silverbrook: It wasn't.
Silverbrook: *looks about*
Icestorm: *looks over at Silverbrook*
Strider: *looks back*
Tanda: *raises hand*
Icestorm: *she rolls her eyes*
Icestorm: Always one in every crowd.
Strider: This meetin has been long enough
Silverbrook: I was not speaking to you, Icestorm.
Silverbrook: Nor _of_ you.
Arrenathian: Icestorm
Silverbrook: I'd suggest watching your slander.
Icestorm: Tanda, could you please ban Lady Silverbrook from the chambers?
Arrenathian: No
Omura Katsumoto: *ducks*
Arrenathian: She has done nothing wrong
Tanda: *looks puzzled*
Silverbrook: Of course, since that is the 'will' of the Council, and this is why there are faults.
Arrenathian: only voiced an opinion
Drakkencor Duras: *bru haha*
Granny Elsa: And things were looking up.
Tanda: M'lady Chancellor
Polynikes of Yew: *shakes head*
Simon Godwyn: *sighs*
Tanda: *looks at her fingers*
Tanda: I didn't do that
Drakkencor Duras: *looks up*
Icestorm: Those of you interested in helping Britannia's future,
Drakkencor Duras: My God
Icestorm: rather than being an utter b**** about it,
Drakkencor Duras: language
Rand al'Thor: *looks up slightly*
pabII: *raises hand*
Ioshus: *grins*
Icestorm: are invited to visit the ethereal forums to discuss it.
Omura Katsumoto: *raises hand*
Icestorm: I hope that a spirit of cooperation and moving forward can be formed.
Icestorm: Thank you all for attending, and may virtue guide us all.



Omura Katsumoto: *raises hand*
pabII: M' Lady
Omura Katsumoto: *raises hand*
Omura Katsumoto: *raises hand*
Omura Katsumoto: *raises hand*
Leshyani Rianne: *looks smug and walks out*
Simon Godwyn: *looks over his shoulder*
Tanda: Omura?
Simon Godwyn: next week might prove a better time Omura
Omura Katsumoto: i have a quick anouncement
Omura Katsumoto: i wanted to make
Omura Katsumoto: before everyone left
Tanda: I'll get it into the minutes
Omura Katsumoto: but seems i'm too late
Tanda: if you wish
Leon DeLucsil: *salutes*
Omura Katsumoto: it was more for the public
Omura Katsumoto: then the council
Tanda: oh
Tanda: an event?
pabII: Mam
Omura Katsumoto: sort of
Icestorm: Yes?
Omura Katsumoto: but not quite
Tanda: oh
Rowena: *stretches*
Tanda: hmm
pabII: if i may suggest
Leon DeLucsil: Treybyre
Tanda: I would suggest if an event
Tanda: try reaching Lady Lava
Omura Katsumoto: not and event
Tanda: of Stratics
Alantha D'Barra: *Follows Row for now*
Omura Katsumoto: whispering winds
pabII: we need to have a few closed meetings of the council to work on a plan to get more seats filled
Omura Katsumoto: has a performing arts group
Omura Katsumoto: starting up
Tanda: *Smiles*
Treybyre Heart: My Apologies, Leon,
Omura Katsumoto: *looks at empting room*
Leon DeLucsil: I will pass on the word
Drakkencor Duras: *shakes head*
Treybyre Heart: Things did get a little heated.
Leon DeLucsil: *nods*
Leon DeLucsil: Fair enough
Treybyre Heart: Forgive me,
Tanda: I will make sure to put it on the agenda
Simon Godwyn: *smiles*
pabII: just the councilors and officials
Treybyre Heart: I would never raise my bow against a Britannian.
Tanda: for next week
Leon DeLucsil: I figured as much
Tanda: and in the notes
Tanda: for this
Omura Katsumoto: ok *sighs*
Leon DeLucsil: Apology accepted
Tanda: so more folks find out about it
pabII: what do you think
Treybyre Heart: *Nods Head*
Icestorm: Well, we should probably see where the Council is headed first.
Tanda: I'm sorry
Icestorm: We do need to work on seats, but we should come up with an overall plan too.
pabII: yes
Tanda: things are a bit emotional
Leon DeLucsil: I will send word of this Omura
Omura Katsumoto: *mumbles to Simon* wish i had more time you know
pabII: but I think i can shed some light on ewhat is a big problem with filling the seats
Simon Godwyn: don't blame me... things are in turmoil...
pabII: well thank you for your time good evening
Icestorm: Thank you, my lady.
Icestorm: We'll work it all out.
pabII: yes