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180th Meeting (Dec 26, 2005)
Tanda: I'm sorry
Tanda: trying to open books
Tanda: for the people
Meneldur: *smiles*
Tanda: Shouldn't be any troubles time wise
Meneldur: *nods*
Meneldur: Which seat is reserved for Maginica?
Dutches: how was your holiday Leon?
Tanda: nor I am expecting with the seat
Tanda: Magincia is Humility
Leon: *shrugs*
Meneldur: *nods*
Leon: ...Okay...
Meneldur: I know, however
Leon: yours?
Ioshus: I don't think seat color matters anymore
Dutches: good
Meneldur: *looks around the table*
Dutches: was fine uneventful
Ioshus: now that there may be seats without a virtue.
Meneldur: I'm not specifically sure which seat it is.
Leon: *nods*
Leon: glad to hear
Tanda: at one point it would be black
Tanda: Though I admit
Tanda: the chair colors
Trilon: *grins*
Tanda: are a little complicated
Meneldur: *nods*
Tanda: I think perhaps next to Pabll
Meneldur: *nods slowly*
Meneldur: very good
pabII: yes to my left
Meneldur: ahh
Meneldur: *nods*
Meneldur: *smiles*
pabII: *smiles*
Imadii: *Watches in disgust*
Tanda: I have to get the landlord to rearrange a little
pabII: Tanda
Leon: *looks sad and nervous*
Meneldur: *smiles warmly*
pabII: The Grand Marshall asked me to let you know
pabII: he may be a little late tonight

Meeting Begins

Tanda: I would like to welcome you all to tonight’s meeting
Tanda: *Nods*
pabII: but hopes to be here
Tanda: What with all the family travels this past eve
Tanda: I can understand that
Tanda: I would like to call the meeting to order
Tanda: let the record show the two official councilors are present
Tanda: Will dispense with the minutes
Tanda: as I didn't get them transcribed
Tanda: M'lord Meneldur
Meneldur: *smiles*
Tanda: do you have the documents from Magincia?
Meneldur: *nods*
Tanda: thank you
Meneldur: That is the transcription of the votes for me as Prime Minster and leader of the Government of
Meneldur: Magincia
You see: a horse
Tanda: Justicar please look this over
Meneldur: A unanimous vote.
Ioshus: *nods*
Trilon: *smriks*
Tanda: it looks in order to me
Meneldur: The governmental has already been set and a posting will be made shortly
Meneldur: *nods*
Meneldur: Por Ort Grav
Meneldur: I would like to encourage all of you to visit the fair city of Magincia
Tanda: We shant be but a few more minutes
Meneldur: *smiles*
Tanda: I myself travel there to bank often
Ioshus: *reads vote records*
Rowena: *listens to the crickets*
Ioshus: Seems in order... doesn't give much background information on the voters... ages and residency would
Ioshus: be nice
Meneldur: *smiles*
Meneldur: I would think the residency would be obvious...
pabII: *raises hand*
Tanda: Councilor Pabll
Ioshus: And are these people voting for the temple or a person?
pabII: just a question
Tanda: *Nods*
Ioshus: *looks back at the book*
Meneldur: Myself of course, as representation of the Temple.
pabII: shouldnt the voters be registered on the high council registry for the city?
Meneldur: Pabll they are...
Meneldur: *smiles*
pabII: only one I see is Silverbrook
Meneldur: You should check again.
pabII: Silverbrook
pabII: oh sorry
Ioshus: So are they voting for the temple to represent Magincia and the temple appointed you?
pabII: I haven’t looked in few days
Meneldur: Ioshus, you seem to be making this more difficult than it needs to be.
Ioshus: Just being careful.
Ioshus: *smiles*
Meneldur: The city of Magincia is the home city of the temple of Mondain....
Imadii: *smirks*
Ioshus: and anyone else that wants to live there.
Tanda: That does not mean that the temple and the city are one and the same though
Meneldur: I am the leader and those in the city, the members of the Temple have voted me as the leader of
Meneldur: the Government in the city as the book states.
Meneldur: *nods*
Meneldur: Of course it doesn't.
Ioshus: It just says they vote for the Temple of Mondain.
Ioshus: It doesn't state a name.
pabII: but it must not be the temple that voted you in but the citizens of the city
Meneldur: It just appears you are searching for loophole.
Tanda: No, not a loophole
Tanda: to insure it is the citizenry
Tanda: that is represented
Ioshus: Well if you get me a list of names, ages, residency, and the name of who their voting for I'll be
Ioshus: extremely happy.
Calibus: If only the members of the temple voted for you that seems a bit outlandish
Meneldur: *smiles*
Ioshus: Until then I'm fine with you acting as councilor...
Calibus: As the temple is not all of Magincia.
pabII: The temple cannot hold a seat
Calibus: NO it can not
Ioshus: Just want to make everything as clear as possible.
pabII: it must be the city
Rowena: *raises hand*
Meneldur: Unfortunately, I think it is clear.
Tanda: Rowena, please come forward
Rowena: If I may make a point
Meneldur: *waits*
Rowena: While they point out it is not able for the Temple to vote for their own member
Rowena: to occupy the seat
Rowena: No one else from Maginica came forward to enter a vote either
Rowena: And if his members are the members of the city that vote
Rowena: Then it is their right to so do so
Ioshus: *nods*
Rowena: Yew Militia votes for their members
Rowena: No offense to the citizens of Yew
pabII: *raises Hand*
Rowena: But at the same time
Tanda: One moment
Rowena: The Mondainites need to specify who they voted for
Rowena: Not just "for the temple"
Tanda: *looks to pabll to indicate she's next*
Ioshus: *nods*
pabII: *nods*
Rowena: Logic, ladies and gentlemen
Rowena: Logic.
Tanda: Councilor Pabll
pabII: Thank you
pabII: The only point I’m trying to make is that we cannot mix religion and state
Calibus: Are any of these people registered citizens of Magincia?
Rowena: I would assume, that by voting for the temple, they meant the temple leadership
Tanda: That is what we are checking Calibus
Rowena: However, that wasn't specified
Meneldur: *smiles*
Meneldur: When you are all done...
Meneldur: I think I can clear this up very easily.
Tanda: M'lord Meneldur
Tanda: please
Tanda: last check of the registry
Meneldur: The book says "The Temple" correct?
Tanda: specifies most at old addresses
Tanda: aye
Meneldur: We are going to pay attention to facts in this case....
Tanda: the vote must name a person as leader
Meneldur: First and foremost
Meneldur: Every name in that book is on the registry
Tanda: and a citizen of Britannia?
Ioshus: Not true
Meneldur: And are considered by your standards as citizens loyal to Magincia
Meneldur: *raises an eyebrow*
Ioshus: Mionna the very first name isn’t..
Imadii: *sighs*
Meneldur: *eyes narrow*
Ioshus: And exar'khun
Meneldur: I think you better look again
Meneldur: Secondly
Ioshus: Just need one registered vote so.. doesn't really matter.
Ioshus: I shall.
Meneldur: Under your charter for the rule of any city
Meneldur: You state that 10 registered names are required...
Meneldur: There are more than 10 names in that vote.
Meneldur: Each are registered.
Meneldur: Now
Meneldur: We can sit and argue about the small details...
Ioshus: I would like the small details filled in.
Ioshus: I didn't say you had to sit in the gallery untill they were done.
Meneldur: And I would like to remind each of you that NO OTHER has come forward for Magincia
pabII: *raises hand
Meneldur: *smiles*
Ioshus: I would just like them finished so later on no one can get confused about what happened.
Meneldur: Or you can sit here and insult the city of Maginica and those who call it home and we could
Tanda: M'lord
Meneldur: proceed to another council for it voice.
Meneldur: The leave the choice to you.
Tanda: M'lord
Meneldur: But make NO mistake...
Tanda: please give me just a moment
Imadii: *Scoffs*
Meneldur: *eyes Tanda his eyes flash a green hue of emerald*
Tanda: The High Council has very specific guild lines
pabII: aye
Tanda: and what you quoted of needing ten citizens is true
Tanda: and that criteria you have met as far as the number of names
Tanda: the citizens need to be at least 14 years of age
Tanda: the age of majority
Tanda: They must be citizens of Britannia
Tanda: in your case from Magincia
Tanda: as that is the city you represent
Tanda: or wish to
Ioshus: Some of these names may not be in the registry due to spelling errors...
Tanda: We are simply attempting to verify
Tanda: they are elligble voters
Tanda: at one time Durnik
Ioshus: Mionna looks like it could be Maionna..
Tanda: for example
Tanda: did not consider Britannia home
pabII: aye
Ioshus: *nods to what Tanda is saying*
Meneldur: *raises an eyebrow*
Tanda: That is all
Meneldur: And so because he has changed his loyalty this is all of a sudden an issue?
Meneldur: Because someone found their home in Maginica?
pabII: thought he was from Malas
Tanda: No, the issue is not he changed his loyalty
Meneldur: I see...
Tanda: He is entitled to do so
pabII: *raises hand*
Meneldur: apparently it is, if it was important enough to mention here.
pabII: Sir!
Tanda: Well at one time the temple of Mondain
Tanda: lay within the valley of Compassion Lost
Meneldur: You seem to place a lot of weight on petty arguments instead of worrying about what is best
Tanda: I believe
pabII: Im sorry but this is no more than any other city has had to do
Meneldur: for this council and the cities it is supposed to represent.
pabII: I think you protest too much
You see: marble floor
Meneldur: I protest nothing, it is you who are protesting Maginica...
pabII: no
Meneldur: However, it is easily rectified...
pabII: we ared not
Kimber: Perhaps a moment to calm is needed..
pabII: we are making sure it is all in order just as yew and all others have to
Kimber: Before tempers flare to much.
Meneldur: *smiles*
pabII: do you think you should be any different?
Meneldur: Investigate, speak with the people who have voted if you must.
Meneldur: *eyes return to their normal shade of emerald green*
Meneldur: I will expect that by this time next week.
Tanda: Are any of those good citizens about the realm?
Meneldur: There will be no further complications.
pabII: no one is above the guidelines set by the people who voted thes rules in
Ioshus: Its your job to get the council a accurate record of the vote.
Meneldur: If there are, as the Prime Minister for Maginica I will need to re think where our voice should be
Meneldur: heard
Meneldur: *smiles*
Ioshus: We're just pointing out some things for you to fix to make it perfect.
Meneldur: Perfection is an illusion.
pabII: That be your choice sir
Meneldur: I welcome you and challenge you however
Tanda: *pounds fist*
Tanda: all right quite please
Tanda: M'lord
Meneldur: To investigate the vote as you please
Meneldur: *smiles*
Tanda: this is the Council of Britannia
Alistar Rook: **
Tanda: and as Such I lead
Tanda: for the time being anyway
Tanda: We do not wish to instigate trouble
Meneldur: There is no trouble Tanda
Meneldur: *smiles*
Tanda: and your insinuation you will take your voice to another council
Ioshus: *raises hand*
Tanda: is a threat
Meneldur: I have no objections to you investigating as deep as you wish.
Tanda: that I do not appreiciate in this chamber
Meneldur: Not at all.
Meneldur: I am not threatening in the least.
Tanda: Magincia is a Crown city
Meneldur: Perhaps you misunderstand me.
Tanda: I myself
Meneldur: I am asking you to do as you would.
Meneldur: If you wish to investigate this
Meneldur: Then do so.
Meneldur: Call upon any voters you wish.
Tanda: I wish to find assurance the voters
Tanda: represent Magincia
Meneldur: And I shall provide you with the information you have asked in the mean time.
Tanda: and not only the temple
Tanda: As at one time long ago
Ioshus: Yes all I want is the information that isn't written down in this book...
Meneldur: I'm sorry to say but the only true citizens of Maginica...are the Temple.
Ioshus: Never said anythng about investigating..
Tanda: I sat and interviewed Durnik on the other side of prison bars
Calibus: That is a lie
Meneldur: I do not believe that has anything to do with this case Tanda.
Meneldur: Durnik has renounced the old ways, you know this.
Calibus: Lady Silverbrook was always a Citizen of Magincia
Meneldur: And have you seen the Lady in the past month?
Meneldur: *shoots a sharp eye to Imadii*
Tanda: the Lady is a resident I had thought of Nujel'm
Meneldur: I think in this case you must accept the fact that the Temple and its members are the only
Imadii: *scoffs*
Meneldur: active and registered citizens of Maginica...
Calibus: The temple is not Magincia.
Calibus: It is a temple
Calibus: Not a city
Meneldur: Our beliefs and religion have no baring on this.
Ioshus: Could I just make a list of the things that should be added so this can be done with?
Meneldur: *nods*
Meneldur: Of course
Ioshus: Its just simple things..
Calibus: Well then stop referring to the Temple as the entire City
Imadii: *Crosses her arms*
Meneldur: And I will see to it that you get the information quickly and accurately
Calibus: For it is not
Ioshus: There are 4 names in the book that don't appear on the registry..
Ioshus: Mionna which may just be a spelling error..
Tanda: Thank you M'lord
Meneldur: The registry may need updating as well, but I'm sure we can make sure we get everything settled.
Ioshus: Looks really similar to Maionna.
Meneldur: *nods*
Ioshus: Exar'Khun
Ioshus: Bray Bloodmoon
Ioshus: And Legato.
Meneldur: *nods*
Ioshus: Those are the names..
Tanda: Alright with that out of the way
Ioshus: Then add their ages and however redundant it is... their residency. *grins*
Tanda: I shall let you take the seat, but until sworn in and verified
Meneldur: *nods*
Meneldur: It shall be done
Tanda: you are not yet official
Ioshus: And make sure the votes state the name of the councilor.
Meneldur: And they shall be there before the next meeting.
Meneldur: *nods*
Ioshus: Good enough for me.
Meneldur: *smiles warmly*
Ioshus: Want your book back?
Meneldur: Well, I shall take my leave then.
Meneldur: And thank you all for your patience.
Ioshus: *nods*
Meneldur: *smiles*
Kimber: well hey strider!
Kimber: opps
Skye Coville: *smiles*
Tanda: *Smiles*
Strider: *smiles at Kimber*
Kimber: *blushes*
Tanda: *takes a deep breath*
Tanda: with that bit settled
Tanda: any other items from Councilors?
Tanda: *looks between them*
pabII: nay M'Lady
Kimber: I have nothing...
Tanda: Justicar Ioshus?
Ioshus: Nuttin.
Ioshus: *grins*
Tanda: New business
Tanda: any items from the floor?
Rowena: *raises hand*
Tanda: Rowena
Alistar Rook: *looks around the room*
Rowena: I just wanted to announce my intentions to run for Chancellor of the Council
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: That is good news
Rowena: *smiles*
Rowena: Good or ill, that will be for fate to determine
Rowena: *wink*
Rowena: If anyone wishes to speak, I will be available for a few moments after the council meeting
Tanda: Anyone else with an item?
hans noodlenogin: *raises hand*
Tanda: M'lord
hans noodlenogin: M'Lady
Tanda: *Nods*
hans noodlenogin: I wish to gain clarification
hans noodlenogin: on the issue discussed just prior to this
Tanda: *Nods*
hans noodlenogin: to ensure that the counselor
hans noodlenogin: we select will be accepted by the Counsel
hans noodlenogin: It is my understanding that you will only allow
hans noodlenogin: a name to be placed
hans noodlenogin: for acceptance if they are listed on the register
hans noodlenogin: [tos]
hans noodlenogin: We already have a codex
hans noodlenogin: or rather town charter
hans noodlenogin: which covers certification of voters and votees
Ioshus: We would just like a list of names..
hans noodlenogin: if we have an established system will this be sufficient for your needs?
hans noodlenogin: Names of candidates or voters
Ioshus: Both would be nice hehe
Ioshus: But I think voters are the only ones necessary.
hans noodlenogin: *scratches chin*
Ioshus: Thats why the registry is so useful.
hans noodlenogin: Voters eligible
Ioshus: Yes.
hans noodlenogin: or voters whom actually voted
Ioshus: eligible would be best.
hans noodlenogin: This will be problematic for us
Ioshus: That way we can cross reference from the list of people who voted.
hans noodlenogin: as we have an open registration system
Meneldur: *smirks*
hans noodlenogin: same day registration, as it were, M'lord.
Meneldur: *leans over and whispers to Durnik*
Ioshus: So the only eligible people will be the ones that vote?
hans noodlenogin: Eligibility is determined on voting day
Tanda: By election official of the city?
hans noodlenogin: based on residence inside town and verification by neighbor present
hans noodlenogin: if challenged.
hans noodlenogin: Yes, by counsel
Tanda: *Nods*
Ioshus: Just make sure in their votes they declare themselves citizens of WW...
hans noodlenogin: understood M'lord.
Tanda: and they are of age
hans noodlenogin: Of age?
Ioshus: 14
Tanda: Children do not get a vote
Ioshus: 14+ I should say hehe
Ioshus: 14 year olds isn't a large group around here.
hans noodlenogin: We don't have a limitation on voting age in Whispering Winds, I'm afraid
Ioshus: *grins*
Tanda: Britannian law dictates age of Majority as 14
hans noodlenogin: The candidate or voter
Tanda: Both
hans noodlenogin: We don’t have a requirement for the age of majority on the books for either
Tanda: A child cannot enter into a contract
Strider: 10 year old Councilors.... *grins*
hans noodlenogin: I'm afraid.
pabII: sometimes adults are as bad
pabII: hehe
Tanda: So it is possible for a child to hold an elected office?
hans noodlenogin: Yes, it is I suppose.
Tanda: hmm
Tanda: *rubs temples*
Alistar Rook: *gasps*
hans noodlenogin: The responsibilities of Town office are much smaller
Ioshus: How many people under 14 do you think will be voting?
Duke Greenspan: *raise had*
hans noodlenogin: and it pays nothing.
Meneldur: *raises an eyebrow*
hans noodlenogin: I dont think more than one, if any M'lord.
Duke Greenspan: Hans, I think we have an age limit
Meneldur: *whispers to Durnik*
Duke Greenspan: in WW town charter
Tanda: *nods to M'lord Greenspan*
Duke Greenspan: on voting rights
Durnik: *nods*
Ioshus: *looks back at duke*
Duke Greenspan: so don't worry too much
Alistar Rook: *fidgets in seat*
Tanda: then the only remaining hurdle for Whispering Winds
hans noodlenogin: My apologies
Tanda: would be the induction ceremony
hans noodlenogin: Duke is correct for voting.
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: I fully understand
Tanda: all those hereto's and whereas's
Tanda: blurr after a bit
Tanda: For new towns
Tanda: coming to the council
Tanda: there is to be a ceremony
Tanda: of induction
Tanda: at which time the High Council
Tanda: will come
Tanda: and that is where there must be ten citizens present
Tanda: do the whole swearing in
Tanda: and verifying
hans noodlenogin: I understand.
Tanda: There is a distinction
Tanda: as the Council can not remove
Tanda: the original virtue seats
Tanda: so those eight seats
Tanda: stay constant
hans noodlenogin: *nods*
Tanda: others become additions to this body
Tanda: There is a copy of the charter
Tanda: on the second floor
Tanda: and a sample ballot
Tanda: which is new
hans noodlenogin: Thank you for the clarification
Tanda: Did this help ?
hans noodlenogin: Yes M'lday' M'Lord
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: Where there other items?
Tanda: *looks about*
Tanda: We will move on to announcements
Tanda: there are many new events
Tanda: on the calendar
Tanda: January 16
Tanda: will be a round table here
Tanda: Candidates for Chancellor, Justicar seats, Grand Marshall
Tanda: shall have an opportunity to be met
Tanda: and give opening platform addresses
Tanda: This is NOT
Tanda: the debate
Tanda: merely a chance for the public
Tanda: to get some basic information
Tanda: to start preparing questions
Tanda: for upcoming debates
Tanda: January 18
Tanda: which is a Wednesday
Tanda: at 8 p.m.
Tanda: central skies here
Tanda: will be the debates for Justicar
Tanda: there are currently two seats open
Tanda: in the Justicar's triumvirate
Tanda: January 23rd
Tanda: in place of the Council meeting
Tanda: will be the ballot/voting
Tanda: for Justicar/s
Tanda: as with the reform of the charter
Tanda: citizens registered to the denizen
Tanda: by January 21st at Midnight
Tanda: are eligible
Tanda: (barring any glitches as before which take the board down)
Tanda: (please check the public address on the second floor to be sure you are
Tanda: in the right forum)
Tanda: (there have been troubles which allowed folks to use the old denizen too)
Tanda: As was before votes will be written and sealed
Tanda: supplies will be on hand
Tanda: for those who can not obtain them
Tanda: Are there any questions?
Tanda: any other announcements?
Tanda: *looks about*
Tanda: Then we stand adjourned





hans noodlenogin: *pokes duke*
Strider: *claps*
hans noodlenogin: Was that always in there?
Duke Greenspan: *ouch*
Tanda: *Smiles*
Polynikes of Yew: Good evening Mylady
Tanda: Hello Poly
Rowena: I wll be outside if anyone has questions
hans noodlenogin: I swear that’s the first time I've seen that.
Rowena: *smiles*
Polynikes of Yew: Sorry for being tardy.
Kimber: *giggles*
Tanda: it's no trouble
Strider: oooh
Kimber: I tripped
Duke Greenspan: yeah, I think I read that once
Strider: *bows*
Polynikes of Yew: How did things go?
Duke Greenspan: let me find it for you
Kimber: Hello..
Strider: I see, hehe
hans noodlenogin: hump
Tanda: I think fair
hans noodlenogin: I see it in there now
hans noodlenogin: I cant believe I didn't notice that before.
Kimber: I guess I should make my way to Skara
Tanda: sometimes it is very hard to ell
Kimber: Will I see you there.
Tanda: tell
Tanda: hehe
Strider: Be well m'lady
hans noodlenogin: We ratified it line by line over 7 weeks
Polynikes of Yew: *laughs*
Polynikes of Yew: true
Tanda: How's your wife?
Polynikes of Yew: a a little different than battle
Strider: *bows*
hans noodlenogin: I'm surprised I didn't get that out of there.
Strider: hello, gentlemen
hans noodlenogin: Hail Strider.
Polynikes of Yew: Doing well
Polynikes of Yew: thank you for asking
Tanda: Good
Tanda: aye
Tanda: I would guess battle is different
Polynikes of Yew: Well
Strider: about that...you just need to have an election & bring 10 people to the HC meeting
Polynikes of Yew: *smiles*
hans noodlenogin: yes
Strider: *smiles*
Polynikes of Yew: Sometimes it is easier to tell what the real
Tanda: I have never been in the midst of one
Polynikes of Yew: result is.
hans noodlenogin: We'll be sure to get the requisite numbers.
hans noodlenogin: *grins*
Polynikes of Yew: *nods*
Duke Greenspan: Yeah, it is under the "charter" section
Polynikes of Yew: Well
Strider: I've been working for a Councilor from Whispering Winds for some time...
Polynikes of Yew: battles of words
Strider: will be happy to see it finally happen
Tanda: that I've done
Polynikes of Yew: can be no less damaging at times.
Duke Greenspan: with age 14
Polynikes of Yew: *grins*
hans noodlenogin: Yes it will be exciting
hans noodlenogin: for the town
Polynikes of Yew: Especially when one is ill equipped for the battle
Tanda: *laughs*
Alistar Rook: Personally, sounded like some "vote padding"
Polynikes of Yew: *laughs*
Polynikes of Yew: Well
Polynikes of Yew: good to see you
Duke Greenspan: sorry, to keep u waiting Strider
Polynikes of Yew: I must take my leave.
Duke Greenspan: so should we
Tanda: and you
Tanda: blessed be
Polynikes of Yew: Be safe
Polynikes of Yew: *grins*
Strider: no problem, Minister
Tanda: *Smiles*
Duke Greenspan: find a place to get down to business?
Strider: sure
Alistar Rook: Sir, if you have a moment
Duke Greenspan: let's go outside first
Strider: *nods*
Rowena: *inclines head*
Rowena: Evening Polynikes
Polynikes of Yew: Good evening Empress
Imadii: *smiles*
Duke Greenspan: Can you recall?
Imadii: Good evening Polynikes
Calibus: Evening Sir.
Strider: yes
Imadii: I hope you have been well
Duke Greenspan: Nice, pls recall from my rune
Tanda: Blessed be all
Strider: *nods*