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Archive of the 183rd session

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:41 am
by Lord DaKaren
183rd Meeting (January 16, 2006)
Leon DeLucsil: *takes off helm*
Rand al'Thor: *takes the book and flips through the pages*
Sachi: Thank you ma'am.
Sachi: *smiles*
Sachi: the High Priest will be here.
Sachi: He'll just be a bit late.
Tanda: *Nods*
Tanda: alright
Leon DeLucsil: Thank you Miss Tanda
Tanda: Your welcome
Rand al'Thor: Thank you Lady Tanda
Tanda: Your welcome
Tanda: my understanding is M'lord Al'Thor
Tanda: you will be speaking on behalf of Polynike this evening
Tanda: due to his being called away
Rand al'Thor: That I will M'lady.
Tanda: *Nods*
Rand al'Thor: The Commander sends his apologize for not being able to be here.
Tanda: I knew ahead of time he may not be able to attend tonight
Rand al'Thor: *nods with a smile*
pabII: thank you M'LADY
Rand al'Thor: Oh..It's that disgruntled Elf who assaulted me..
Arrenathian: Evening Tanda
Arrenathian: Oona
Oona: *Grins*
Arrenathian: How ar eyou?
Rand al'Thor: Lord Fi'Gith, I hope the Light is treating you well..
Oona: Evening. Oh I am well
Meneldur: Pardon my tardiness...
Tanda: sorry M'lord for the locale
Meneldur: *smiles*
Tanda: stable is to the west
Bloodcryer: *smiles and nods*
Sachi: *hands the book to Meneldur*
Rand al'Thor: *nods to the High Priest*
Meneldur: *reads through it shortly*
Oona: Thank you Tanda
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: Your welcome
Trilon: thank you
Arrenathian: I am looking for Aoibheal tonight.
Tanda: Your welcome
Arrenathian: Have you seen her?
Oona: No I have no seen her lately
Bloodcryer: *smiles*
Arrenathian: Hmmm
Arrenathian: *looks a bit concerned*
Tanda: Welcome all we will begin shortly
A Purple Llama: *smiles*
Rand al'Thor: Nice horse there...
pabII: would someone get this animal off of me please
Rand al'Thor: Lt Colonel...
Leon DeLucsil: Sir
Leon DeLucsil: *salutes*
Rand al'Thor: Can you take care of those Brigands outside..
Leon DeLucsil: Of course
Rand al'Thor: Thank you.
Princess Page: thanks
Tanda: Your welcome
Arrenathian: *smiles*
Skye Coville: *smiles*
Skye Coville: Thank you
Shadius: Thank you!
Tanda: Your welcome
Rand al'Thor: *removes robe*
Tanda: Alright has everyone here received tonight’s agenda?
Leon DeLucsil: Hello Love
Princess Page: Hello dear
Leon DeLucsil: here's the agenda
Tanda: Last weeks election in Whispering Wind
Tanda: has brought them to the Council as a represented city
Tanda: This is just the formal announcement of such
Tanda: Simon Godwyn won the right to represent
Tanda: Whispering Wind
Tanda: by a vote of the cities residents
Tanda: *looks about*
Tanda: I would swear him in, however
Tanda: he does not seem to be here
Tanda: at the moment
Tanda: I'm out of step with my own agenda
Tanda: *Giggles*
Tanda: Where does one's brain go as we get older
Kimber: On vaction?
Tanda: *laughs*
Tanda: perhaps so
Arrenathian: *chuckles*
Tanda: *flips through my written copy*
Tanda: I should be able to do this in my sleep
pabII: *looks about room*
Tanda: but apparently that doesn't work
Tanda: I call this meeting to order
Tanda: Are there any reports from members of the Council?
Kimber: I have nothing...
Tanda: *looks around*
pabII: nay
Tanda: Alright
Tanda: now insert the bit I rambled on about
Tanda: regarding Whispering Wind
Tanda: and M'lord Godwyn
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: *blushes slightly*
Arrenathian: *looks up*
Arrenathian: *looks back at Aoibheal*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *sits and smoothes her skirts*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *nods to Tanda*
Tanda: The next item on the agenda is new Business
Aoibheal NicEsus: *looks at Arren*
Tanda: I received a messenger
Arrenathian: *looks over*
Tanda: asking to allow the Commander of the True Britannians
Tanda: to give a report
Tanda: *looks about*
Tanda: Is this person present
Aoibheal NicEsus: *smiles slightly and looks at him, conflict in her eyes*
Rand al'Thor: *looks around*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *swallows and looks to Tanda, focusing on her*
pabII: *raises eyebrow*
Tanda: Seeing no one calling to speak
Tanda: We will move that to a later date
Ren The Conjuror: *nods in thanks*
Tanda: M'lord Godwyn
Tanda: Welcome
Tanda: Would you please step forward?
Omura Katsumoto: thank you
Tanda: *Nods*
Tanda: Please raise your right hand
Simon Godwyn: *raises right hand*
Tanda: As the duly elected representative of Whispering Winds
Tanda: Do you hereby swear to uphold the duties of that office?
Simon Godwyn: aye, I do...
Tanda: Swear to uphold the laws of Britannia?
Simon Godwyn: aye, I do...
Tanda: And represent those citizens whom elected you to the best of your ability?
Simon Godwyn: Aye
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: As you have agreed to the duties asked of you
Tanda: it is my pleasure to welcome Whispering Winds
Tanda: and you M'lord
Simon Godwyn: Thank you
Simon Godwyn: *smiles*
Tanda: as their representative
Omura Katsumoto: *Claps*
hans noodlenogin: *claps*
Tanda: to the High Council
Lore Denin: *claps*
pabII: *claps*
Omura Katsumoto: *Claps*
Tanda: Make yourself to home
Tanda: *Smiles*
pabII: welcome aboard
Simon Godwyn: May I have a moment?
Tanda: *Nods*
Tanda: Please
Simon Godwyn: I will be brief...
Simon Godwyn: of course, I now have obviously officially resigned as councilor from Skara Brae...
Simon Godwyn: and would ask the council consider allowing Lady Kimber to fill that seat until such time...
Simon Godwyn: she is either officially voted in by the people of Skara Brae... or replaced...
Aoibheal NicEsus: *looks at him confused*
Simon Godwyn: that is all
Duke Greenspan: Thank you
Tanda: Thank you M'lord
Tanda: I would like to ask Lore Denin to step forward
Tanda: *looks to Lore*
Lore Denin: *looks up*
Tanda: I would like to take a moment and introduce those who may not know him
Tanda: though I doubt there are any
Tanda: Lore Denin of Whispering Winds
pabII: *smiles*
Tanda: Will be serving
Meneldur: *smirks*
Tanda: as my Vice Chancellor
Tanda: while I am Acting Chancellor
Duke Greenspan: *clapping *
Tanda: Also M'lord
Tanda: are we still getting the report from the Commander
Tanda: of the True Britannians?
Ariyana Sune: *turns around and hushes them*
Ariyana Sune: Shh!
Arrenathian: *looks over to her*
A Purple Llama: *looks over*
Lore Denin: Thank you Chancellor for this great honor
Aoibheal NicEsus: *has been whispering*
Lore Denin: I hope to serve you and all of Britannia with Virtue
Tanda: I am sure you will
Tanda: *Smiles*
Lore Denin: I do not see the Commanding Lord here as of yet
Tanda: *Nods*
Tanda: Then we will move on and fit him in as we can
Lore Denin: *nods*
Tanda: Your welcome to sit in the "inner circle"
Tanda: *laughs*
Lore Denin: *grins*
Ren The Conjuror: *Smirks*
Lore Denin: you just answered my next question
Ariyana Sune: *rolls her eyes*
Tanda: not that its any different
ZED: .
Treybyre Heart: Thank you.
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: Next
Tanda: on the agenda
Tanda: which should be in the backs of the tomes you were given
Tanda: If I missed anyone you may have to ask to share
Tanda: Is a Decree of Sovereignty
Tanda: Now this is a preliminary draft
Rand al'Thor: *leans forward interested*
Tanda: It has already been brought to the attention of myself
Meneldur: *smirks*
Tanda: that the restriction on trade
Tanda: creates some issues
Tanda: We will NOT be voting on it tonight
Tanda: but opening up input
Tanda: for a final draft
Tanda: with any luck perhaps it can be voted upon
Tanda: the same time the Justicar Elections
Tanda: run
Tanda: so you all don't have to trudge to the polls
Tanda: too often
Tanda: That being said
Tanda: I would like to give a few minutes
Tanda: for the floor to question or such
Tanda: Are there any questions of concerns?
Treybyre Heart: *Raises Hand*
Simon Godwyn: *raises hand*
Rand al'Thor: *looks around the room*
Tanda: M'lord Godwyn
Ren The Conjuror: *Raises his hand, then puts it down at Christophers and waits*
Tanda: Godwyn
Simon Godwyn: Thank you...
Tanda: Followed by Treybre
Simon Godwyn: my reason for being late was the lengthy... and as yet unresolved debate over this very issue...
Simon Godwyn: going on at the town meeting in Whispering Winds...
Arrenathian: *looks at Zeph and smiles a bit*
Simon Godwyn: as I was given no clear directive in the matter... I will present my own thoughts at this time...
Tanda: *Nods*
Simon Godwyn: I am concerned with one line in particular...
Simon Godwyn: "Said entity will not trade weapons with any government"
Simon Godwyn: I believe this places undue restriction on our craftsman... who make their living
Simon Godwyn: selling armor and weapons... by prohibiting such sales to friendly nations...
Simon Godwyn: I would propose the wording be changed to allow for clarity...
Simon Godwyn: and the sale of such items to nations which are found to be friendly or allied...
Simon Godwyn: such might be achieved by wording such as...
Zeph: Certainly.
Simon Godwyn: "Said entity may not trade weapons with any foreign government who is not an ally of Britannia...
Simon Godwyn: with ally being defined...
Simon Godwyn: "A foreign government that has... 1. Established an Embassy with the High Council...
Simon Godwyn: "2. Is not an Enemy of State... and
Rand al'Thor: *raises his hand long enough to nods to Tanda*
Tanda: *Nods*
Simon Godwyn: "3. Has agreed not to trade with Enemies of Britannia"
Simon Godwyn: that is all..
Ren The Conjuror: *Raises his hand once more*
Tanda: Thank you M'lord
Tanda: M'lord Treybre
Treybyre Heart: *Nods*
Tanda: then M'lord Al'Thor
Oona: *Folds her arms*
Treybyre Heart: Thank you, Acting Chancellor.
Tanda: Then Ren
Tanda: Sorry
Tanda: please
Treybyre Heart: My question is similar to the respected gentleman from Whispering Winds,
Treybyre Heart: In that the definition of a recognized government is too vague, and must be followed with
Treybyre Heart: A Current list of Recognized Governments.
Duke Greenspan: *nods*
Treybyre Heart: For instance, I am not aware if Nujelm has established an Embassy,
Treybyre Heart: But if Trading with these folks is prohibited,
Treybyre Heart: It would certainly cut the losses of the efforts by both the Royal Knights and the Yew Militia
Treybyre Heart: To free the City some time ago. Might I also mention that the Yew Militia has been involved in
Drakkencor Duras: ?!?!
Drakkencor Duras: *looks intently*
Leon DeLucsil: *watches*
Treybyre Heart: Caravaan Operations with Nujelm in the past, which would sight them,
Princess Page: *listens carefully*
Treybyre Heart: In violation should Nujelm not meet the criteria for an Ally or recognized Government.
Leon DeLucsil: *raises hand*
Tanda: *Nods*
Tanda: *looks to Leon, I'll get to you*
pabII: *raises hand*
Treybyre Heart: I understand that the Council does not wish for a shipment of Weapons of Mass destruction,
Tanda: *nods to Pabll also*
Drakkencor Duras: ?!?!?!?!??!
Aoibheal NicEsus: *comes out of her reverie and looks about*
Ren The Conjuror: *Hides a smile*
Treybyre Heart: To inadvertently come into the hands of the Empire of Armageddon, nor the Iron used to create
Meneldur: *smirks*
Treybyre Heart: such weapons,
Arrenathian: *gently nudges Aoibheal*
Treybyre Heart: But how far can this regulation go, if an Allied Power, or even a recognized Power,
Treybyre Heart: Turns around and retails the Fine Swords of Whispering Winds to Umbra?
Aoibheal NicEsus: *looks to Arren and nods slightly*
Drakkencor Duras: *ponders mass destruction?*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *whispers*
Arrenathian: *nods back*
Treybyre Heart: Thank You.
Princess Page: *thinks*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *raises hand*
Tanda: M'lord Al'Thor
Tanda: then Ren
Tanda: Then Leon
Rand al'Thor: *nods*
Tanda: then Pabll
Tanda: Then Ra'Dian
Tanda: I hope that's everyone
Meneldur: *Eyes flash emerald just as the gem on his hand flashes*
Rand al'Thor: First....
Aoibheal NicEsus: *whispers*
Sachi: *looks at the High Priest*
Rand al'Thor: I would never like to withhold trade to any friendly Nation...
Rand al'Thor: Tokuno has been a good friend to us...
Rand al'Thor: The same I hope with the Isle city of Nujel'm...
Rand al'Thor: But...
Rand al'Thor: The Trade of weapons should not be allowed...
Rand al'Thor: Mostlt because for a simple reason..
Aoibheal NicEsus: *nods to Arren*
Rand al'Thor: Britannia should not move the machines of war..I shouldn't be allowed.
Rand al'Thor: It's not what we stand for...
pabII: here here
Rand al'Thor: If Tokuno went to war with another nation...is it right we outfit with weapons?
Rand al'Thor: That leaves us responsible for the fallen nations...
Aoibheal NicEsus: *steadily glares at Rand*
Rand al'Thor: We are here to keep the peace...its what we strive for...
Rand al'Thor: Not to let bloodshed happen..
Arrenathian: What business is Tokuno's of yours?
Rand al'Thor: *ignores the elf*
Rand al'Thor: I do not wish to cause conflict..
Rand al'Thor: But Britannia holds to peace...
Meneldur: *watches interestingly*
Rand al'Thor: Always has...
Drakkencor Duras: *looks intently*
Rand al'Thor: That shouldn't change now for the sake of Trade...
Rand al'Thor: Thank you...
pabII: *claps*
Tanda: Thank you
Tanda: Ren please
Tanda: *looks to him*
Ren The Conjuror: *Shakes his head for a moment*
pabII: *looks up*
Ren The Conjuror: The colonel knows that he holds my highest respect...
Aoibheal NicEsus: *looks up at Ren*
Ren The Conjuror: However, I must disagree.
Ren The Conjuror: Britannia does stand for peace...
Rand al'Thor: *nods with respect*
Ren The Conjuror: However, we are a free nation...
Ren The Conjuror: How many hold vendors in foreign lands?
Ren The Conjuror: Luna perhaps?
Drakkencor Duras: *shakes head*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *mutters under her breath*
Drakkencor Duras: *frowns*
Ren The Conjuror: I agree with Councilor Christopher...
Ren The Conjuror: His proposal holds merit...
Ren The Conjuror: However, I believe it even may be too limited.
Arrenathian: *nods with Aoibheal*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *smiles slightly at Arren*
Ren The Conjuror: The citizens of Britannia should not trade with enemies of Britannia...
Ren The Conjuror: I certainly agree.
Ren The Conjuror: However, it is not our place to determine what Tokuno or any other does with the items we trade
Ren The Conjuror: Where do we draw the line?
Ren The Conjuror: We could sell them ore, and the tools to build weapons...
Ren The Conjuror: Is that also illegal?
Ren The Conjuror: We could sell them cloth or leather...
Ren The Conjuror: What if they use it to make armor?
Ren The Conjuror: If we start here...
Ren The Conjuror: Then the end result is no trade at all.
Ren The Conjuror: And the collapse of an economy that is no flourishing.
Aoibheal NicEsus: *smiles and takes down notes*
Ren The Conjuror: I would continue...that if we trade with a nation...
Ren The Conjuror: that "agrees" nto to sell to an enemy of state...
Ren The Conjuror: how do we then enforce this? Do we station troops and spies to make sure our
Ren The Conjuror: friends vendors aren't being used to sell to our enemies...
Ren The Conjuror: and if they are buying from them, we then go to war with the merchants
Ren The Conjuror: who are selling their goods?
Drakkencor Duras: *raises hand*
Ren The Conjuror: It is *not* our responsibility...
Tanda: *nods to Drakkencor he's on the list*
Ren The Conjuror: what happens to our goods once they are sold...
Ren The Conjuror: If it was, then we would need to police every person that buys
Ren The Conjuror: from any vendor in the realm, and I can attest...
Ren The Conjuror: I certainly don't have the manpower to do that, and I don't think anyone else does either.
Tanda: Councilor Pabll
Aoibheal NicEsus: *smiles*
pabII: I think Rand said all I have to say thank you
Tanda: Thank you
Leon DeLucsil: *raise hand*
Tanda: M'lord Fl'Gith
Aoibheal NicEsus: *looks at Arren and arches a brow*
Tanda: I'm getting there, Leon
Leon DeLucsil: *nods*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Mandrake root.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Ginseng.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Both useful in potions.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Spells of healing.
Tanda: *Nods*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: And also cause earthquakes and are used in summoning energy vortices.
Ren The Conjuror: *Nods in agreement*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Do we draw the line at feeding our enemy forces?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: A pig could be considered a weapon if it's used to keep strength in our enemy's bellies.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: A single blade of grass, employed by one excelled in the martial arts...
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Where do we draw the line?
Sachi: *shifts slightly and looks at the blue-haired elf*
Bloodcryer: *nods in agreement and respect*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Further...
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Not only would this proposal keep us from sending weapons to our allies,
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: too would it stop them from coming in.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: For trade is a two way street.
Princess Page: *shakes head*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: As fer our bearance o' the responsibility of how traded items are used, that's a mighty fine line.
Drakkencor Duras: *coughs*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Are we responsible for the fallen nations if Tokuno uses our weapons to defeat them?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Perhaps.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: But then, if we consider the Empire o' Tokuno to be an ally, then I ask you, should
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: we nae go to their aid?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: I don't know about most o' ye, but if my friend is being beaten by orcs, I don't stand around
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: and ask if my friend did somethin' to provoke the orcs, I aid him.
Ren The Conjuror: *Nods once more*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Alliances, friendships, whate'er...
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Yes, direct trade wi' our enemies... sure, that should be illegal.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Makin' nationwide agreements wi'out consultin' the government o' the nation...
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: surely not somethin' we'd e'en 'ave t' 'onor if it was so agreed to.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Howe'er, rather than spend our time tryin' to legislate e'ery possible outcome o' the
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: presence o' the United Council o' Sosaria, let us keep it brief an' simple.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Don't trade wi' our enemies. Don't make policy ye cannae make.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: That be all I 'ave.
Tanda: M'lord DeLucsil
Leon DeLucsil: Thank you
Tanda: Then M'lord Drakkencor
Drakkencor Duras: *nods*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *takes down a few more notes*
Leon DeLucsil: perhaps a blanket ban is not what would be required
Leon DeLucsil: But we do need to keep an eye on international affairs
A Purple Llama: Vas Flam
Arrenathian: *looks over*
A Purple Llama: *coughs*
Leon DeLucsil: And when dealing internationally
Arrenathian: Excuse you
A Purple Llama: *smiles and nods*
Leon DeLucsil: We need Britannia, all of Britannia to look over such deals
Leon DeLucsil: Cites can deal between themselves
Leon DeLucsil: But nations such as Tokuno, which I welcome openly, need to be dealt with on the national level
Leon DeLucsil: Without regulation of some sort, things can fall apart
Leon DeLucsil: So I suggest
Leon DeLucsil: With each occurrence
Leon DeLucsil: Each nation we deal with
Leon DeLucsil: And each trade deal
Leon DeLucsil: We look at individually
Leon DeLucsil: On this council
Leon DeLucsil: the ruling council, that Lord Britain himself appointed
Leon DeLucsil: To approve it
Ren The Conjuror: *Looks a little puzzled*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *arches a brow*
Leon DeLucsil: Any deal not doen this way would be beyond a cities powers
Leon DeLucsil: and i believe, illegal
Aoibheal NicEsus: *smiles gently at Arren then looks back to Leon with a puzzled expression*
Tanda: M'lord, Does that mean
Leon DeLucsil: That is all for now
Tanda: you would see trade with a nation
Tanda: outside Britannia
Tanda: as one the High Council would review
Leon DeLucsil: Yes
Tanda: first?
Leon DeLucsil: I would encourage trade
Arrenathian: Leon
Leon DeLucsil: But it should come here first
Arrenathian: can you imagine the paperwork?
Leon DeLucsil: *laughs*
Leon DeLucsil: yes
Aoibheal NicEsus: *tilts her head*
Drakkencor Duras: Can you imagine the lives saved?
Arrenathian: I'm serious
Leon DeLucsil: But, it should be done
Drakkencor Duras: so am I
Aoibheal NicEsus: *nods in agreement*
Leon DeLucsil: We need a minister of trade
Tanda: thank you M'lord
Aoibheal NicEsus: Hmm...
Leon DeLucsil: Thank you
Tanda: *looks at him thoughtfully*
Tanda: M' lord Duras
Aoibheal NicEsus: *scribbles furiously on her parchment*
Drakkencor Duras: Aye!
Tanda: will be the last tonight
Tanda: as we ready to move on to the candidates
Tanda: Please M'lord
Drakkencor Duras: I would like to thank thee for the opportunity to speak, for I rarely do so...
Drakkencor Duras: To our former Grand Marshall.. I agree with you
Drakkencor Duras: *grins*
Drakkencor Duras: but
Ren The Conjuror: *Returns the smile*
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: *Smiles*
Drakkencor Duras: your comment about vendors in foreign lands =selling weapons... Good Point BRAVO...
Drakkencor Duras: I believe it our responsibility to purge our own vendors of such items..
Arrenathian: You will kill you economy.
Drakkencor Duras: we should set the example of smart business with our foreign neighbors
Aoibheal NicEsus: *nods slightly*
Drakkencor Duras: ... possibly remove them altogether....
Drakkencor Duras: Also...
Drakkencor Duras: Police ourselves...
Arrenathian: *raises hand*
Drakkencor Duras: We should promote a whistle blowing program which would allow others....
Aoibheal NicEsus: *arches her brow*
Tanda: *for the speaker Arrenathain or in general?*
Drakkencor Duras: to notify the government with possible acts that threaten our nations safety...
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *raises hand*
Tanda: *smiles at M'lord Fl'Gith*
Drakkencor Duras: For the idea...
Drakkencor Duras: I thank you
Drakkencor Duras: *bows*
Drakkencor Duras: but...
Aoibheal NicEsus: *looks a bit puzzled...again*
Drakkencor Duras: The council should be aware of all trade outside our borders.... should govern who can have weapons..
Drakkencor Duras: or ore... silk leather and such...
Ren The Conjuror: *cringes*
Zeph: That should be discusses between nations.
Arrenathian: *nods to Zeph*
Drakkencor Duras: that way the council and all the members here are aware of what possible outcome may arise...
Aoibheal NicEsus: *sighs and picks up the quill she is quickly learning to hate and takes more notes*
Drakkencor Duras: from the backdoor dealing that some groups have...
Drakkencor Duras: *looks to ren*
Oona: *Smirks*
Tanda: *tilts head*
Ren The Conjuror: *Raises an eyebrow*
Drakkencor Duras: I want to know who has weapons....
Aoibheal NicEsus: *nearly drops her parchment*
Ren The Conjuror: If you are making an accusation sir, do so in a straightforward manner.
Drakkencor Duras: I want to know what I may have to deal with when someone's deal goes sour...
Drakkencor Duras: I am not...
Drakkencor Duras: I am enforcing your opinion , sir...
Ren The Conjuror: *Sighs*
Drakkencor Duras: respectfully.. I did not interrupt you...
Drakkencor Duras: please
Zeph: So you are saying that you would like to have a record of who is allowed to bare arms?
Ren The Conjuror: My apologies...please continue.
Drakkencor Duras: no..
Arrenathian: shhh
Arrenathian: *looks to Zeph and smiles*
Drakkencor Duras: I would like to see a government that cares who has more weapons then us...
Oona: *Shakes her head*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *looks to Tanda for order*
Zeph: Ahh...
Drakkencor Duras: would you like to know tokuno has more longbows?
Drakkencor Duras: alas...
Drakkencor Duras: t'is late...
Drakkencor Duras: *bows*
Drakkencor Duras: taht is all from me
Zeph: Hmm...
Drakkencor Duras: Thank you
Tanda: Thank you
Zeph: Interesting.
Zeph: *shrugs*
Princess Page: *claps*
Tanda: Briefly M'lord Arrenathain and then M'lord Fl'Gith
Arrenathian: Briefly?
pabII: *whispers to Drakencore*
Arrenathian: *grins*
Zeph: *laughs*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *goes to take notes..shakes her head and looks at Arren*
Tanda: *Smiles*
Arrenathian: First off have you all gone a bit mad since I stepped down?
Arrenathian: Limiting trade?
Leon DeLucsil: *raises brow*
Arrenathian: My gods
Rand al'Thor: *leans forward*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *smiles slightly*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *shakes his head*
Drakkencor Duras: *yawns*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *mouths the word "decorum"*
Arrenathian: no w you will breed an atmosphere of distrust
Zeph: Agreed.
Arrenathian: not between nations but between each other
Zeph: And the citizens!
Arrenathian: spying on each other to see who is doing what?
Drakkencor Duras: *nods*
Meneldur: *turns around and smiles to Silrien*
Arrenathian: is this what you want?
Drakkencor Duras: *mutters "done"*
Sachi: *bites her lower lip and nods to Meneldur*
Arrenathian: Soon you are so bent on finding this "trade"
Arrenathian: that the real enemy is on your doorstep through your blindness.
Arrenathian: anyone?
Rand al'Thor: *growls*
Drakkencor Duras: Aye!
Zeph: Well, I for one, Arrenathian. Completely agree.
Zeph: *adjuts his vest*
Arrenathian: You do this and soon you hang yourselves?
Drakkencor Duras: The wolf is in the sheep’s pen
Arrenathian: I am a Grey elf
Arrenathian: more dangerous then any wolf
Tanda: Zeph please
Drakkencor Duras: Symantics
Tanda: *puts a finger to her lips*
Arrenathian: that is all
Zeph: *laughs*
Tanda: *m'lord Duras*
Drakkencor Duras: *mutters "good"*
Zeph: She is hushing me... I'd better leave then.
Tanda: M'lord Fl'Gith
Tanda: you get to close this
Ren The Conjuror: *Sighs again*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *smiles at Arren*
Tanda: session
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Thank ye, m'lady Chancellor.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: 'ave some of us gone mad since the esteemed former Councilor Arrenthian stepped down?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Certainly.
Tanda: *leans to Listen to Lore whisper*
Arrenathian: *smiles*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: But it isnae wi' some strange desire t' put police in e'ery vendor's stall.
Lore Denin: *nods*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Tis wi' the fear o' somethin' new.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: The United Council o' Sosaria, in'erent wi' its design, openly accepts the cities o' Britannia
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: as individual governments.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Which, rightfully, they are.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: I'd remind e'eryone that this Council itself only regulates national matters,
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: an' 'istorically, we 'ave left local decisions where they belong.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Local.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Many might recall the situation betwixt the borders o' Yew an' Minoc.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: I'm uncertain 'ow it was e'er resolved. Mostly because this Council didnae step in to solve it.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Decidin' who trades?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Sure, if we're talkin' large-scale trade, then we can do somethin' if Moonglow sends
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: a shipload o' Explosion potions to the Empire o' Armageddon...
Drakkencor Duras: *sniffs*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Mostly, watch the ship burn from the shores, as it'll be wavy, an' rock, an' explode.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: But... let me ask you all...
pabII: *smells urk*
Arrenathian: *sniffs*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: 'ave ye e'er purchased a powerful weapon from a vendor?
Rand al'Thor: *nods to Drak and Ashley*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: A scroll that tought you more?
Tanda: *Nods*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: I'm sure many o' us 'ave.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: 'ave we all 'eard o' a group known as the Black Company?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Evil to the core.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Certainly few would stand in their defense.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: An' I guarantee you that most o' us 'ave purchased somethin', unknowin'ly, from a vendor
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: that they supplied.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Whistle-blowin'?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Sure.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Next we'll start burnin' witches.
Tanda: *cringes*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Midnight house checks.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Curfews.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Let's let paranoia set in fully.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Or, let's look at this for what it is...
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: An uncertain knee-jerk reaction to a government that reaches beyond our country,
Aoibheal NicEsus: *shoots Arren a glare*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: an' across the facets, t' cover all o' Sosaria.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Clearly the document needs work, an' probably would benefit from some insight from the
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: United Council o' Sosaria as well.
pabII: *raises hand*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Madness... per'aps.
Aoibheal NicEsus: *shakes her head*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: But we can all agree that certainly this discussion wasnae wi'out merit,
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: for at least we 'ave started groundwork on learnin' what might be appropriate,
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: an' what might be 'eavy-'anded.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Thank ye.
Tanda: Thank you
Tanda: Vice Chancellor Denin
Tanda: Wishes a word
Lore Denin: Thank you Chancellor Tanda
Lore Denin: It may appear we all have very differing positions on this matter
Lore Denin: but there seems to be much greater common ground then differences
Lore Denin: It seems all agree trading with enemies of state is not a good idea
Lore Denin: It is only the degree which we trade with allies on which we differ
Lore Denin: I am sure within all the views
A Purple Llama: *coughs*
A Purple Llama: Excuse me.
Lore Denin: we can find a compromise that both helps protect merchants
Lore Denin: and Britannian lives
hans noodlenogin: *whispers*Duke, the filthy urks are outside
Lore Denin: Thank you for your time and thoughts
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: As we have seen there are a great many opinions in Britannia
Duke Greenspan: *grins* I am a merchants.... u need WWM
Tanda: I will shift through the notes of this meeting
pabII: *raises hand *
Tanda: Councilor Pabll, it will be just one moment
Tanda: I wanted to quickly remind folks this turns to a roundtable of sorts
Tanda: though it will be brief
Tanda: the Justicar debates are two days from now
Tanda: Jan. 18 here
Tanda: at 8 cst
Tanda: vote will be Jan. 23rd
Tanda: again a public ballot
Tanda: 8 p.m. cst
Tanda: Councilor briefly
hans noodlenogin: *agn*
Tanda: Councilor Pabll?
pabII: thank you
Aoibheal NicEsus: *packs away her materials*
pabII: I just have a question of Ren
Aoibheal NicEsus: *looks at Arren and smiles*
Ren The Conjuror: *Looks up*
Arrenathian: *smiles back to her*
Aoibheal NicEsus: *winks at him and sneaks out*
pabII: I was not long ago that you stood in this very room and stated you did not recognize this council
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *raises hand*
pabII: I’m wondering why you are worried about our thoughts on this as you do not recognize us
pabII: as a councilor I think it ironic
pabII: that is all
Ren The Conjuror: Excellent questions Councilor.
Ren The Conjuror: I will do my best to answer.
Ren The Conjuror: You are correct; the council in the state it existed then, in my belief held a great number of flaws.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *puts hand down*
Ren The Conjuror: I have served Britannia, and indeed served on this council longer then
Ren The Conjuror: a great number of people in this room even knew of it's existence.
Ren The Conjuror: This council, under the reform committee...
Ren The Conjuror: Has begun taking the steps I hoped it would, to better represent Britannia...
Ren The Conjuror: That would be the first answer...
Ren The Conjuror: I hope to see this council grow, that was one of the reasons I left...
Ren The Conjuror: To inspire, not discourage....
Ren The Conjuror: Other reasons...
Ren The Conjuror: I don't want to see Britannia, nor Sosaria come to blows...
Ren The Conjuror: I desire peace.
Ren The Conjuror: The Britannian Armed Forces, and this council, remain a force that Newcastle continues
Ren The Conjuror: to respect, and take interest in...believe it or not.
Ren The Conjuror: This proposal this evening...
Ren The Conjuror: Sets the stage for possible problems and affects Newcastle...
Ren The Conjuror: which remains loyal to Britannia.
Ren The Conjuror: We week not to come to blows.
Ren The Conjuror: I know...
Ren The Conjuror: That no matter what I say...
Ren The Conjuror: A good number of individuals are going to shake thier heads, and disagree...
Ren The Conjuror: simply because I'm the one saying it.
Ren The Conjuror: That's something I've come to accept.
Ren The Conjuror: That's alright even...
Ren The Conjuror: But, I havn't given up on you...or Britannia...or Sosaria.
Ren The Conjuror: So that dear Councilor, is why I'm here tonight.
Tanda: Still have a comment Ra?
pabII: :given up on me
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *shakes his head*
Tanda: I think he meant Us as in the High Council
Tanda: not You specifically
pabII: *thinks *
Ren The Conjuror: *Nods and sighs again*
pabII: ah
Tanda: I would like to thank you Ren and Oona
Tanda: for taking the time to come
Tanda: and giving us some feedback
Tanda: and all who have
Tanda: the course has been rocky
Tanda: as we try to find a new way
Tanda: to that end
Tanda: Elections are coming
Tanda: and have been in some new formats
Tanda: as will the Offices of the High Council
Tanda: to that end tonight,
Tanda: We have M'lord Bloodcryer, please step forward
Tanda: who has applied for a seat as a Justicar
Ren The Conjuror: Good evening Undermarshal.
Ren The Conjuror: *Salutes*
Oona: *Salutes*
Oona: Good evening Sir
Tanda: Rand Al"thor is stepping in for Polynike of Yew
Tanda: as the commander is unable to be here
Tanda: M'lord
Tanda: please
Tanda: I myself
Tanda: am seeking the Chancellors position
Tanda: as is Rowena to my knowledge
Tanda: Though she does nto seem to be about
Tanda: not*
Tanda: Are there any other candidates here
Tanda: that have Not contacted me?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *wiggles his fingers*
Tanda: Ra
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: Former Chancellor Fl'Gith
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: I, m'self, am seekin' an office in th' 'igh Court.
Tanda: *Nods*
Tanda: I will ask Lord Bloodcryer
Tanda: to give a little information
Tanda: and we'll move our way around
Tanda: M'lord
Bloodcryer: Well I will not make this long, I am a simple knight as such am a seeker of Truth and Justice
Bloodcryer: and as such would be honored to be among the justicars to seek out the truth and justice in the
Bloodcryer: realms
Bloodcryer: that is all I have to say
Tanda: *Smiles*
Tanda: Thank you
Tanda: Ra, would you care to go next?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Sure...
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *smiles*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: I be Ra'Dian Fl'Gith, a wild elf.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: I 'ave long seen the 'igh Court as a place where much good can be done, but 'as been long
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: in need o' some strong guidance.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: It would be my intent t' work wi' other Justicars t' build a strong foundation
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: for the justice system that may last for years t' come.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Thank ye.
Tanda: M'lord Al'Thor?
Rand al'Thor: *smiles*
Rand al'Thor: As Most know...I am Colonel al'Thor..
Rand al'Thor: And here to speak on the Behave of Commander Polynikes
Rand al'Thor: for the position of Grand Marshall...
Rand al'Thor: The Commander has served with Britannia for many many years...
Rand al'Thor: And now one can serve the people better in this place then him.
Arrenathian: *nods*
Rand al'Thor: He has proven himself more times in his career then almost any other offiver...
Rand al'Thor: And has dedicated himself to the protection of us all.
Rand al'Thor: *smiles and nods*
Rand al'Thor: Thank you.
Tanda: Guess that leaves me
Tanda: Not much I can tell you
Tanda: I am Tanda McLeod
Tanda: that's the short version
Tanda: *grins*
Tanda: a witch
Tanda: Merchant
Tanda: some may have used the word "flighty"
Tanda: but well
Tanda: my course tends to follow a strong path toward the respect for all life
Arrenathian: You forgot a good administrator
Tanda: *Smiles*
Arrenathian: *grins*
Tanda: I have served this council
Tanda: as Justicar
Tanda: for a good number of years
Tanda: working with Grand Marshall Covenant
Tanda: and then with Grand Marshall Ren
Tanda: before I retired
Tanda: Then moving to the office of Minister of Public Affairs
Tanda: so I've seen a lot of the inner working
Tanda: of this body
Tanda: Now as Acting Chancellor
Tanda: I have seen all of us
Tanda: make some grand strides
Tanda: in streamlining government
Tanda: making us more open to the citizens we serve
Tanda: Things for which I will always be proud to be a part of
Tanda: The bottom line comes down to me
Tanda: I am here to serve
Tanda: the people
Arrenathian: *nods*
Tanda: Not to promote Tanda
Tanda: or lord or rather lady over anyone
Tanda: I am just Tanda
Tanda: a witch from Minoc
Tanda: who wishes to do her best to serve all of you that's all.
Tanda: I hope Rowena
Tanda: Will be able to at least publish something
Tanda: if her intent is still to seek office
Tanda: She is a find lady herself
Tanda: with a strong leadership background as well
Tanda: So don't make up your minds yet
Tanda: Now are there any questions or comments
Tanda: for any candidates
Tanda: keeping in mind this isn't a debate
Arrenathian: *raises hand*
Tanda: Arrenathain
Treybyre Heart: *Timidly Raises hand*
Tanda: You'll be next Treybre
Arrenathian: If you became Chancellor
Arrenathian: would you actively seek participation with the Council of Sosaria by sending a representative?
Tanda: I would like to see a Britannian representative yes
Arrenathian: Very good
Tanda: One selected and approved by the Council
Arrenathian: Thank you
Tanda: and not me
Tanda: Your welcome
Arrenathian: but you would support it.
Tanda: Yes
Arrenathian: *nods*
Tanda: Treybre
Treybyre Heart: I realize that following in the footsteps of the beloved blue one might be a daunting task to begin
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *coughs*
Treybyre Heart: with, but should you or Rowan be elected, and I shall trust that you will give a fair answer for
hans noodlenogin: *shakes leg*
Treybyre Heart: her as well, can we expect to see more projects like the Britannian Times,
Arrenathian: Good night Oona
Oona: *nods*
Treybyre Heart: as we have seen in the past? Forgive me, the air is thick and hard to manuevar.
Treybyre Heart: Thank you
Tanda: I have strived to make sure there is an agenda
Tanda: published for each meeting
Tanda: though sometimes I fail
Tanda: I would like to get the paper back up
Sachi: *leans forward and whispers sleepily to Meneldur*
Meneldur: *leans back and listen*
Tanda: following in Lord Fl'Giths shoes is not easy
Tanda: He has been a great mentor
Tanda: taught me much
Tanda: about diplomacy
Tanda: Decorum
pabII: **snickers**
Tanda: death
Tanda: a few other D words
Tanda: oh Dragons
Tanda: but all silliness aside
Tanda: he set a fine example
Tanda: and anyone who could come close
Tanda: would serve Britannia well
Tanda: Communication
Tanda: is a key
Tanda: toward uniting us again
Tanda: anyone else?
Treybyre Heart: I'm sorry,
Tanda: Or didn't I answer you?
Treybyre Heart: But since Rowena is absent, could you also answer as best you can for her as well?
Tanda: She is an excellent orator
Kimber: Excuse me.
Kimber: I was to inform you..
Tanda: Aye
Kimber: Rowena is sorry she wasn’t here
Kimber: But it was unavoided..
Princess Page: *leans over whispers to husband*
Tanda: *Nods*
Tanda: I know her from our work on the reform committee
Tanda: she is dedicated
Tanda: insightful
Tanda: I think you'll be pleasantly surprised
Tanda: at the debate
Tanda: There is some background
Tanda: she provided
Tanda: in the reform section
Tanda: of the public office (forums)
Tanda: Anyone else with a question?
Tanda: for anyone?
Treybyre Heart: *Raises hand meekly*
Tanda: Treybre
Treybyre Heart: Perhaps I am the only one awake. . .
Simon Godwyn: *chuckles*
Treybyre Heart: My next question is for the Justicar Candidates.
pabII: *head nods forward*
Sachi: *giggles and pokes PabII experimentally*
Treybyre Heart: Concerning the upcoming Trade Discussion as relevant to the Decree of Soveriegnty,
pabII: *sits up straight*
Treybyre Heart: Should it come to light that Arms and Armaments sold by Citizens of Britannia,
Sachi: *folds her hands and looks innocent*
Treybyre Heart: To a Neutral or Second Party,
Treybyre Heart: Should eventually be proven to have found their way into the Enemies of the State,
Princess Page: *lays head on leons shoulder*
Treybyre Heart: How will the Courts deal with those that they believe may or may not be involved,
Leon DeLucsil: *holds her so she doesn’t fall*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *looks to Bloodcryer*
Tanda: *cringes*
Treybyre Heart: concerning the issuance of Inquistion and rendering decision?
Bloodcryer: *nods*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Ye want t' field that one first?
Tanda: He's gonna be fun at the debate
Bloodcryer: It is in my humble opinion that each case with a serverity as this one be judged on its merits an
Bloodcryer: d
Meneldur: *looks back to Silrien*
Bloodcryer: facts of the situation as it occurs and thus be judged in the letter of the law set down by
Bloodcryer: this very council
Meneldur: Tanda I'm sorry I must leave...
Sachi: *blinks and looks at Meneldur innocently*
Tanda: *Nods*
Bloodcryer: That is my opinion
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Wi'out stealin' my potential future colleague's answer,
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: twould be most difficult t' offer an opinion on how I'd rule on such a case wi'out more
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: facts than those presented.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Were the sellers aware they were bound for enemy 'ands?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Did the second party know who they were dealin' with?
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Did anyone witness the transaction?
Treybyre Heart: My apologies Lord Ra'dian, I meant only to ask what procedures you would invoke.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: There are so many questions that would need be answered before a just decision could be reached.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *nods*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: In short, I would ensure that the questions that needed t' be answered would be so,
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: to the best that they could be.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Intent is always a consideration on the severity o' any decision made.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Some might say breakin' a law is breakin' a law, an' that is true, but even in guilt,
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: one must determine intent t' determine the severity o' punishment.
Treybyre Heart: *Smiles*
Tanda: Alright as the hour grows very late
Tanda: I will give one last call
Tanda: to anyone wishing to ask
Kimber: *yawns*
Tanda: something
Tanda: *looks around*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *nods to Trebyre*
Tanda: alright then
Tanda: we can adjourn
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *raises his hand*
Tanda: RA
Kimber: *sighs*
Tanda: sorry
Treybyre Heart: *Chuckles*
Tanda: go ahead
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Hey now!!!
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *grins*
Tanda: sorry for shouting
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: It feels so good to do this to another Chancellor.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *grins*
Tanda: *laughs*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Tis nae a question, 'owe'er, but an announcement.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Sunday, January 29, at the 'our o' seven in the eve by Central Skies,
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Compassion Grove shall 'ost at the fine establishment next door,
Tanda: *nods to Silthanis*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: a celebration in honor o' this four hundredth year.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Tis quite a nice, round number, an' round numbers should always be celebrated.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: *smiles*
Tanda: *Giggles*
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: There will be more details forthcomin' soon, but I wanted t' get early word out.
Ra'Dian Fl'Gith: Thank ye.
Tanda: Thank you
Tanda: Just a public Hello to former Justicar Silthanis
Tanda: Nice to see you
Silthanis: *smiles*
Silthanis: aye nice to come back around m’lady
Tanda: With announcements done
Princess Page: *nods off*
Tanda: we can adjourn for the night
Kimber: My bum was tired of the seat.... I think we need softer seats
Leon DeLucsil: *shakes her shoulder gently'*
Leon DeLucsil: Time to go love
Tanda: I'll see what my repairman can do
Kimber: Thank you..
Skye Coville: *chuckles*
Kimber: *giggles*
Skye Coville: Spoiled woman
Simon Godwyn: *stretches*
Tanda: Thank you for coming Lore
Kimber: *rubs back side*